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  1. #1
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    New Stickmate units

    Are these imported units or USA built units?

    https://www.hobartwelders.com/products/stick/

    Literature on units states ideal performance for most 6010, but then there is a note that states 6010 not recommended for open root. Is this because there would be arc outage issues?
    MigMaster 250- Smooth arc with a good touch of softness to it. Good weld puddle wetout. Light spatter producer.
    Ironman 230 - Soft arc with a touch of agressiveness to it. Very good weld puddle wet out. Light spatter producer.


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    HH 125 EZ - impressive little fluxcore only unit

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    Non-disclosure in force but I will say it ran Lincoln 6010-5p open-root much better than I expected from a basic inverter but it can't sustain a long arc like the big boys can. It can pull a much longer arc on Lincoln and old-stock J.W. Harris 6011. I'd have no qualms about 6010 for any reasonable use. For reference the Lincoln 225/125 really fails there; the 210i is worlds better. It's no Idealarc or Dialarc but that statement re open-root.....

    Edit: At first I said to myself "I don't need another welder" but it got me thinking.....
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    nice portable size.

    The machines are obviously throw aways if there was any type of malfunction. It looks like the iron-cored transformer stickmates have been dropped from the lineup. I am guessing theses would work well on a 6000 watt generator, at least to run 1/8" rod. The older stickmates were piggy on power at start up (in rush).
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  4. #4
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    hey im getting one of these welders the 240 only one

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    Are these imported units or USA built units?

    https://www.hobartwelders.com/products/stick/

    Literature on units states ideal performance for most 6010, but then there is a note that states 6010 not recommended for open root. Is this because there would be arc outage issues?
    M&S Blades and Blacksmithing
    I am getting one of these welders the 240 only one. I have a project I will be subjecting it to . I will be building an anvil from fork lift forks which is generally 4140. I was thinking of plug welding the base along with welding all the seams solid with preheating it the whole time to about 3 to 400 degrees so the welds reach a good penetration and are as strong as can be. I was thinking of plug welding on the face using a hard facing rod and solid welding the seam so I can heat treat it when I an finished. I am hoping to acheve a Rockwell around 50 to 55 hardness. does any one have any suggestions. Century Gothic][/FONT][/FONT]

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    Dan, the 160i hated 6010 for the most part, but if you know what you are doing, you can make it work. Long arc is out of the question. I am used to running a short arc with low amp 6010's, but this needed a super short to keep lit. It shined with 6011's though...even 5/32's.
    Don


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    Unfortunately I'm pressed for cash or so my wife tells me. I see that Fleet Farm stores are offering the old transformer rigs at close out prices, I'm not interested in inverter technology.

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    Unless the area is out of used industrial transformer machines I'd look for one of those instead of getting a new small buzzbox. Much love for them on my part but an Idealarc or Dialarc or similar is a whole different and delightful ball game. I put my machines on wheels so weight isn't an issue.

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    I have heard unconfirmed inter web rumor of China import, but nothing solid. Would be sad if not more robust than the the run of the mill chineseum.
    Hobart 140, various and sundry grinders etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oak1971 View Post
    I have heard unconfirmed inter web rumor of China import, but nothing solid...
    Yes, these are imported from China. Says so right on the machine. There is Chinese writing on the cables, too.

    That means nothing in and of itself. Chinese factories will make anything to any specification asked of them, for any price point. They aren't building their own infrastructure using the same tools you find at Harbor Freight.

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    So then about build quality, anything special about these that set gives them an edge on anything else?
    Hobart 140, various and sundry grinders etc.

  11. #11
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    Compared to the Miller offering they are much cheaper, must be the paint. As far as most of the other rigs in this catagory you will have the Hobart no bullshirt warranty.

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