OCC and Jets bike episode

[turbo2ltr]

I don't know how many of you guys are from the NYC area, but the Cross Bronx (where they broke down) is probably the suckiest road in NY, and possibly the whole US. There is barely any room to pull off, there are potholes that will swallow a 2 ton pickup whole and places where the road buckles so bad it's like hitting a curb. Not to mention that you are 30 ft below the rest of the world with walls on both sides, so you cant even walk to get help. There is always traffic and I used to avoid it like the plague. And hands down, the worst place to have any sort of car trouble.
The potholes alone could have jarred the trailer off the ball.

I garentee that they caused a traffic jam clear into NJ... haha

I'm with you Mark...

I found it funny that they kept saying "there isn't a lot of fabrication going on the Jets bike"...if I was buying that thing, I'd feel a bit jipped..

[deere_x475guy]

In my opinion they aren't "BIKE BUILDERS" they are "KIT BIKE BUILDERS". big difference. Anyone can buy the same frames, engines, fuel tanks, fenders ect. Then fit, paint and assemble. What they do pretty well is add the do dads that make the bike stand out and my hat is off to them for that. I have been looking into doing the same thing to build one for myself. There are several places to buy the frames WWC being one that I am leaning towards. I haven't decided on which of the 3 engines (RevTech, S&S or HD) I will be using yet. Still lots of research to do.

I know the NYC area very well and I agree the place they broke down is probably one of the worst places you could imagine. I hauled plenty of truck loads of Steel Case office funiture to that area in my younger years.

Bob

[Splatterboy]

Originally posted by Mark Whiddon
I have to admit I must be the only person that reads this board that respects OCC for what they are. They are bike builders, I think they are pretty good at what they do. Mark

Holy crack pipe Batman.

Bike builders? No. They are bike assemblers.

Good at what they do? You mean jerk around, yes they are good at that. They are entertaining to watch I will agree to, but good at what they do? No.

Respect OCC? Not in this lifetime.

I feel bad for Miller especially. Here they are sponsors of the show, and yet the welding these guys do is a joke. Yes, the weld that broke was probably from a decent jolt, but the weld should not have snapped like that. If anything, the strut should have been damaged around the weld. The weld should be stronger than the base and the base would be weaker due to the heat from the weld. It was a bad weld.

For most of their stuff, all they do is go to the parts catalog, order up some stuff, and bolt it together, or have other guys do the custom work like the primary and primary cover on the Jets bike. The painter has a lot of talent though.

[deere_x475guy]

I think splatterboy and I are on the same page with OCC.

[arcdawg]

[Bike builders? No. They are bike assemblers.



I feel bad for Miller especially. Here they are sponsors of the show, and yet the welding these guys do is a joke.




i dont feel bad for miller, im sure that they are doing just fine and im also sure that theyare selling more machines to hobbyest then they have in recent years.

its millers choice to represent a t.v.show/ bike co. that has no saftey procedures, sure we ve all cut corners in the shop at least once or twice, but with occ i think that they encourage it...

the whole o.c.c. thing has gotten out of control, now there even doing aol commericals ? come on now....

the tuttels are good metal workers and they are entertaining to a degree, but i much rather watch jesse or billy lane or the man INDIAN LARRY BUILD A BIKE, NOT ASSEMBLE ONE

rant over, brian

[mozark6]

OCC is laughing all the way to the bank

[Crithpy_Critter]

If OSHA walked in (and did their job), OCC would be shut down quick.

[deere_x475guy]

LOL I am certain someone from OSHA has been watching the show.

Originally posted by Crithpy_Critter
If OSHA walked in (and did their job), OCC would be shut down quick.

[Charles Sand]

Everybody is a Monday Morning quarterback.
Ok, build a bike, or easier yet, "assemble" a bike and post your pictures here so we can all see how much more talented you all are than OCC.

[nitsuj]

In my opinion they aren't "BIKE BUILDERS" they are "KIT BIKE BUILDERS". big difference. Anyone can buy the same frames, engines, fuel tanks, fenders ect. Then fit, paint and assemble.

No anybody can't do it. And that's not what they do, at least, no more so than WCC. Or anyone else. Jesse James doesn't cobble up every part for every bike he makes. You just assume that based on what you see on TV.

There are several places to buy the frames WWC being one that I am leaning towards. I haven't decided on which of the 3 engines (RevTech, S&S or HD) I will be using yet. Still lots of research to do.

What?!? You're not welding up your own frame and carving your motor from a solid block of aluminum? I suppose you'll hammer out your own tanks and grow the rubber trees to make your own fuel lines. Don't bother with the WWC frame, they're over priced based on the fame of Jesse. You'll getter better quality for less money from lots of other companies. Rolling Thunder comes to mind. And skip the HD motor, not enought bang for the buck. Go with the S&S or Rev Tech. Ultima are nice too. You doing a rigid? You'll see why I said they weren't meant to be ridden, just looked at....

[Splatterboy]

Originally posted by Charles Sand
Everybody is a Monday Morning quarterback.
Ok, build a bike, or easier yet, "assemble" a bike and post your pictures here so we can all see how much more talented you all are than OCC.

If you are buying me the parts Sandy and shipping them here, I'll post the pics within 2 days.

Assembling a bike is very easy. Have you ever done it?

You are missing the very obvious point. They promote themselves as master fabricators and totally custom bikes. That is not true.

[deere_x475guy]

You know Charles, if you would have read one of my other posts you would have seen where I think they do a good job of designing the extra's that make the bike stand out.

Once I figure out where all the parts are going to come from YES...I will be assembling the bike. I never said I would be building my own frame or hammering out my tank and fenders. I lack way to much tallent not to mention the tools to do that.

Bob

Originally posted by Charles Sand
Everybody is a Monday Morning quarterback.
Ok, build a bike, or easier yet, "assemble" a bike and post your pictures here so we can all see how much more talented you all are than OCC.

assembling

[deere_x475guy]

Ok...your right about the anybody part...my neighbors 2 year old daughter probably would have a hard time with it...

And yes your correct....JJ doesn't hand make EVERY
part. I never said he did. But he sure does more than the OCC gang. Does that make his bikes better???...I don't know that it does.

Nope sure won't be. Why reinvent the wheel. There are plenty of great frames ready to go. I have in the past designed and fabricated some of my own equipment. Do a search on bucket here on the miller site.

And thanks for the tip on the engines. That is the same thing one of the guys at work said. He fells I will get more bang for the buck with the Rev Tech.

Bob.)

Originally posted by nitsuj
No anybody can't do it. And that's not what they do, at least, no more so than WCC. Or anyone else. Jesse James doesn't cobble up every part for every bike he makes. You just assume that based on what you see on TV.





What?!? You're not welding up your own frame and carving your motor from a solid block of aluminum? I suppose you'll hammer out your own tanks and grow the rubber trees to make your own fuel lines. Don't bother with the WWC frame, they're over priced based on the fame of Jesse. You'll getter better quality for less money from lots of other companies. Rolling Thunder comes to mind. And skip the HD motor, not enought bang for the buck. Go with the S&S or Rev Tech. Ultima are nice too. You doing a rigid? You'll see why I said they weren't meant to be ridden, just looked at....

[mozark6]

i have posted this before so bare with it---a couple years back my roommate built or assembled a bike---paucho frame -h.d. motor and tranny primo openprimary wideglide frontend--after market tins he did EVERYTHING but the paint.. it was a chore things don't just fall on and you bolt her up NO WAY.. I WAS SURPRISED at how involved it was, and this guy is not stupid.. i would bet the first bike any of these boys built took a fair amount of time--

[ScottDFW]

Has anyone seen the "other" bike builder show on TV then? Like "dirty south" choppers or southern-grits or something like that? ( no, I cant remember the name )

I personally dont care for their style too much (too 70's "easy rider" style for me)...and the exaggerated "hick" talk is a little much. But they DO build the bikes there. Pop and bend their own sheet stock, english wheel and plannishing hammer out tanks and fenders, complete exhausts from scratch, and even machine-bend their own handlebars, etc. I have a lot of respect and admire their skills and the cordial nature that the "old skooler" on the show is teaching the new guy.

Anyone else seen this too?? What did you think?

I will post showtime schedule for the show so others will be able to see it too.

-scott