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  1. #1
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    Question for the Sales Reps...

    I was looking over a floor model HH135 at Tractor Supply. I asked if could take a look inside the unit, play with the torch, rough it up a bit, kick the tires.... No problem.

    I pulled the nozzle off just for kicks and saw that it was "press-fit" using a thin piece of doublesided foam tape. Without the tape, the nozzle would surely fall right off. No explanation could be given by the salesperson.

    And by the way, using tape to hold an object in place is not "press fit", as the nozzle is described in the HH135 owner's manual That's a "bonded fit", or a "gasket fit" (and that's putting a kind spin on it).

    Questions:

    Do the production units also use the same mechanism to hold the nozzle in place?

    If so, wouldn't the tape immediately catch fire and melt away?

    Not trying to start hysteria or knock your product, but I'm very interested in the unit and just want some reassurance. Thanks.

  2. #2
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    Lugosi,
    I have never seen tape on any of the nozzles we use on the H-10 or M series guns. The nozzle has a metal sleeve inside that has a nomex type insulator between the sleeve and the nozzle itself. The nozzle is crimped around the outside to secure it to the inside sleeve.

    The gun you saw may be for display only or someone has made some interesting modifications.

    Kevin

    KSchuh@Millerwelds.com

  3. #3
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    Lugosi, Kevin,

    Check this thread:

    http://www.hobartwelders.com/mboard/...highlight=tape

  4. #4
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    Thanks scottdawg. Seeing that it may not be a completely isolated occurence gives me pause. Still, I hope it's small fluke and corrected by Hobart.

  5. #5
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    I wouldn't be too worried, they've been great about correcting problems, even with used machines.

    scott

  6. #6
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    scottdawg,
    I remember seeing that thread, we are not trying any new guns that I'm aware of and I'm very curious as to what was with that machine. I'll have to check in with Steve to see if he is getting it back.

    The picture that Sundown provided is exactly what we supply with the Handler 135 and 175.

    Kevin

    KSchuh@Millerwelds.com

  7. #7
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    Thanks Kevin. This is exactly why I'm narrowed down to Hobart/Miller products. I've asked questions of the Lincoln people, but never get a response. I've stopped trying, and I'm not buying (Lincoln, that is).

    Can't wait to let the sparks fly...

  8. #8
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    Lugosi,

    Kevin is right, there are no new guns on the Handler units. Where did you see this unit with this gun? Like Kevin stated, the picture that was posted is the gun we send out with the Handler 135/175.

    Thanks,
    Brian

    bbasho@millerwelds.com
    Brian

  9. #9
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    Originally posted by Hobart Expert Brian
    Lugosi,

    Kevin is right, there are no new guns on the Handler units. Where did you see this unit with this gun? Like Kevin stated, the picture that was posted is the gun we send out with the Handler 135/175.

    Thanks,
    Brian

    bbasho@millerwelds.com
    I saw it at a Tractor Supply in Hanvover, PA., on Carlisle Pike. It's the only one here.

  10. #10
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    Lugosi,

    Thanks again for your help. We'll get this checked out.
    Brian

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    Lugosi,

    Thanks again for your help. We'll get this checked out.
    Brian

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