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  1. #16
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    check out some ironwood

    It is a hardwood used for better decorative items in the southpacific. Heavy, dark, with a good "clunk" sound to it.

  2. #17
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    I have found a source for Ipe but no guaranties that long enough chunks
    are available for the cart. HOWEVER I cound get a bunch and make a full set of
    supports for the Horizontal Bar I run. Back in the day we would have a set of shelves
    behind the Bar, with at least four of every lenght @ 8" to 12" in 1" incriments.
    Then 14" to 28" or more in 2" incriments.
    ==============
    There's said to be a place south of Port Washington where rail-road stuff might be had.
    Both are 30 miles out of my way.
    Occured to me I could go with my preffered wheel arangement like a foundry cart.
    just offset and sister the center member with two lenghts @ 2/3's the lenght of the cart.
    Then shift the main axel to center, and the casters to center of each end.
    Hmnnnn?
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    In the beginning, the Earth was without form, and void.
    When one picks up some wood or metal or stone and shapes it into something usefull
    ... I beleive that it has to be a deliberate effort to disavow a creator.

    As you work these, and join them, you feel the force and the will of He
    who formed and shaped the very resorces that you now add your will and force to.
    Further one surely can know when your will and force is not aligned with His.

  3. #18
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    Phil,
    Don't know how good those wheels are on the smaller casters, but I might just have some NOS ones laying about the shop. Measure 'em up with the O.D. and the bearing/bushing diameter and I'll see. They may either be cast iron hubbed with bearings or aluminum hubbed with either bearings or bushings...depends on the size you need. All will have a urethane...or some sort of plastic anyway...tire.

    Don't you have any freight coming into the shop you work at that utilizes big arsed dunnage?

    EDIT: Phil, those large wheels are looking right familiar as well. Shot me a dimension on 'em and I'll have a look through the project supply rack.
    Last edited by Wyoming; 12-31-2011 at 10:41 AM.
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    Thanks Roy........ I'll log the wheelage as I go along.
    As much as I like the notion of a "purist" resoration
    FUNCTION is at least as IMPORTANT. (round Wheels always a preference).

    Running behind allready this weekend.
    vg
    Last edited by vicegrip; 01-02-2012 at 10:35 PM.


    In the beginning, the Earth was without form, and void.
    When one picks up some wood or metal or stone and shapes it into something usefull
    ... I beleive that it has to be a deliberate effort to disavow a creator.

    As you work these, and join them, you feel the force and the will of He
    who formed and shaped the very resorces that you now add your will and force to.
    Further one surely can know when your will and force is not aligned with His.

  5. #20
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    Phil,

    If you're going homeless, I'd recommend a shopping cart over that thing.
    --- RJL ----------------------------------------------

    Ordinarily I'm insane, but I have lucid moments when I'm merely stupid.
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    DialArc 250
    SyncroWave 250 w/Coolmate 3
    SP-175+
    TA 161STL
    Lincwelder AC180C circa 1950
    Victor & Smith's O/A
    Dayton (Miller) spot welder
    1200 sq.ft. of garage filled with crap
    A kid that can actually run the stuff +++

  6. #21
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    A shopping cart doesn"t have "Spring-loaded Casters !!"
    Man I cleared away more dirt ...Spring-loaded Casters


    In the beginning, the Earth was without form, and void.
    When one picks up some wood or metal or stone and shapes it into something usefull
    ... I beleive that it has to be a deliberate effort to disavow a creator.

    As you work these, and join them, you feel the force and the will of He
    who formed and shaped the very resorces that you now add your will and force to.
    Further one surely can know when your will and force is not aligned with His.

  7. #22
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    I thought I saw springs in that there pic!
    --- RJL ----------------------------------------------

    Ordinarily I'm insane, but I have lucid moments when I'm merely stupid.
    -------------------------
    DialArc 250
    SyncroWave 250 w/Coolmate 3
    SP-175+
    TA 161STL
    Lincwelder AC180C circa 1950
    Victor & Smith's O/A
    Dayton (Miller) spot welder
    1200 sq.ft. of garage filled with crap
    A kid that can actually run the stuff +++

  8. #23
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    Phil, just how buried was that cart when ya' found it? Oughta be a law against grave robbing!!!!
    Last edited by Wyoming; 01-01-2012 at 09:54 AM.
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    Funny !
    We have such a sckitZophranic winter-spring transition here with 4-5 thaw-freezes,
    that anything left sitting in soft earth sinks up to it's axels.

    I used to go treasure-hunting in the spring before everything gets green.
    Found good tools at times along fence-lines, and in ravienes.

    =============
    yeah I just went back and the pics show earth just about to the axels.
    Casters were 100% terra-deepa.
    Last edited by vicegrip; 01-01-2012 at 10:38 AM.


    In the beginning, the Earth was without form, and void.
    When one picks up some wood or metal or stone and shapes it into something usefull
    ... I beleive that it has to be a deliberate effort to disavow a creator.

    As you work these, and join them, you feel the force and the will of He
    who formed and shaped the very resorces that you now add your will and force to.
    Further one surely can know when your will and force is not aligned with His.

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    Turns out most areas were nearly fully rotted. A few areas were intact.
    Thought I was going to bust off the ramaining carcass with a few mallet hits.
    WRONG..... She was made of Red Oak ! Finally got that all off and the workings
    in a box to take to work. Better equipt there.

    Roy was right, the smaller wheels have lots of rubber loss. The big'uns look fair.
    Gonna take some work freeing those wheels and springs from their castings.
    The inside where Wood met Iron was well preserved. Don't like to rush these things.
    Much can be learned if you go along easy with a discriminating Eye.
    Phil


    In the beginning, the Earth was without form, and void.
    When one picks up some wood or metal or stone and shapes it into something usefull
    ... I beleive that it has to be a deliberate effort to disavow a creator.

    As you work these, and join them, you feel the force and the will of He
    who formed and shaped the very resorces that you now add your will and force to.
    Further one surely can know when your will and force is not aligned with His.

  11. #26
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    Shoot me the dimensions of those smaller wheels Phil and I'll see if I have anything to match. BTW, we're talking freebies and you can pay the postage with beer if Killer and I ever make it up your way...well maybe scotch, don't think I had a beer last year and doubt I'll see one this year either.
    Last edited by Wyoming; 01-03-2012 at 10:45 AM.
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    Thanks Roy, take'n the asseblies to work tonight. Hopefully I'll have
    some time to try and get them apart and see what the hubs are.


    My day-man is back from hernia surgery, but on light duty. SO
    they're working me like a pack-horse.
    Phil
    ==================
    We do have some fine Micro-Brews here now out of the ashes
    of the Big Brew's demise.

    There's always >Drambuie<
    but my Woman don't drink since motherhood set in.
    Last edited by vicegrip; 01-03-2012 at 10:58 AM.


    In the beginning, the Earth was without form, and void.
    When one picks up some wood or metal or stone and shapes it into something usefull
    ... I beleive that it has to be a deliberate effort to disavow a creator.

    As you work these, and join them, you feel the force and the will of He
    who formed and shaped the very resorces that you now add your will and force to.
    Further one surely can know when your will and force is not aligned with His.

  13. #28
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    Going to have to destroy the wheels to save the spring-assemblies.
    I can move the axels about a 16th each way...... by cutting thru the wheels
    I can pull the axel halves both out............. rarely will such a thing
    cooporate and go all the way thru.

    OH !

    The wheels are 6" dia nominally.
    On 1/2" axels.
    1 3/4" wide at the hub, 1 1/2" wide where the rubber meets the steel.
    Won't much matter what was in the hub.... How fast will a cart Go LoL.
    Dought they were roller- or ball bearinged.
    The castings would swing 8" wheels if that is what is available.
    ==========
    Roy..... need any accOOtriments?
    I haven't been over to C H Petters in ages.


    Got some nice 8" gringing wheels collecting dust too.
    Phil
    Last edited by vicegrip; 01-04-2012 at 02:08 AM.


    In the beginning, the Earth was without form, and void.
    When one picks up some wood or metal or stone and shapes it into something usefull
    ... I beleive that it has to be a deliberate effort to disavow a creator.

    As you work these, and join them, you feel the force and the will of He
    who formed and shaped the very resorces that you now add your will and force to.
    Further one surely can know when your will and force is not aligned with His.

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    Phil, I'll head down to the shop in the morning to see what I have. Not looking into accoutrements so much right at the moment...Killer & I are going to have a difficult enough time when retirement comes in another two years and we have to move everything. Probably just catch up with you then.
    Miller 251, Lincoln PrecisionTig 275, Miller DialArc 250 AC/DC, Hypertherm 900, Bridgeport J-head, Jet 14" lathe, South Bend 9" lathe, Hossfeld bender with a collection of dies driving me to the poorhouse, Logan shaper, Ellis 3000 bandsaw, Royersford drill press and a Victor Journeyman O/A.

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    Phil,

    Sounds like you ought to set up an electrolytic derusting tank. It's simple enough. However, do NOT immerse the springs, or cover them with some substance.
    --- RJL ----------------------------------------------

    Ordinarily I'm insane, but I have lucid moments when I'm merely stupid.
    -------------------------
    DialArc 250
    SyncroWave 250 w/Coolmate 3
    SP-175+
    TA 161STL
    Lincwelder AC180C circa 1950
    Victor & Smith's O/A
    Dayton (Miller) spot welder
    1200 sq.ft. of garage filled with crap
    A kid that can actually run the stuff +++

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