Stick Welder

[Brand X]

This is the deal Cary.
I sold my 95s to my friend and bought this. 100 amps output on stick running on a 120 volt/20 amp circuit.(110 max stick on 120 volts) Plus the option of 220 use. The 95s was 90 amps output on stick. Three year warranty on this compared to one year for the 95s. I have a feeling it will run most rods better then the 95s.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/THERMAL-ARC-...item53e5eb6922

[Sberry]

Yes, darn near half the price of a Max,,, good thing I didn't look too hard before buying blue huh?

[Brand X]

Yes, darn near half the price of a Max,,, good thing I didn't look too hard before buying blue huh?

The Thermal was not around in this form. The Thermal Sanrex were at that time. Full featured 160TS cost more then a ac/dc Thermal 185.

[Sberry]

A reason I like these machines as they are really 2 for one, put 240 to them ant they are as good as a buzzer. Ideal for farm type shops etc where there may be occasional need for stick in the shop, most of our inside work is done wire. I have more machines than most got in this biz but I could make it with an inverter as my stick unit.

[Brand X]

I should of waited,It went down almost $3.00 overnight.

http://www.weldingsuppliesfromioc.co...C--161S/Detail

I feel the same, just handy units overall. For a few more pounds and about $200.00 difference, the 161S is way more of machine then a 95s. Hopefully better on 120 volt overall.

[usmcpop]

I should of waited,It went down almost $3.00 overnight.

Ah, but how many 6013 electrodes were included yesterday?

[Brand X]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQ76TOn-vV8

More info,, The 161 having power factor caps should be a huge help over the 95s.. Should run on my scout really well. Although only for extended reach deals. The Scout is a great little stick unit in it's own right. I should just build a skid for a gas compressor/ Thermal scout/ LN-25 pro/ and a Thermal dynamics Cutmaster 42/ Thermal 161s/ and a Esab 200c. Small O/A setup. It would fit nicely into a back of a truck, and do all the work i would ever need.

[Brand X]

Ah, but how many 6013 electrodes were included yesterday?

Looks like 4 on both..


The 161 should run 6011 ok. I seem to be able to find 309,and 312 pretty cheap, so I know those work on these machines.

They have it shipped already. I have a feeling at this price, they are going to sell a lot of them. The new 181 probably killed a lot of sales of this unit. I will take the lighter weight, and cheaper price at this point.

[usmcpop]

The old Sanrex unit touted "6010 compatibility". Let us know how this new one fares. What is it about inverters and the cellulosic electrodes?

[Brand X]

The old Sanrex unit touted "6010 compatibility". Let us know how this new one fares. What is it about inverters and the cellulosic electrodes?

I know the bigger inverter units from Esab, and Lincoln run 6010 fine (Esab 350 mpi, C-300 powerwave anyway) I had no luck with the 95s, but Jimmie's thermal 85 ran it fine. Never got a chance to use those with my 85,and TS-160. My little engine drive has no issues what so ever. Running that, and the 95s showed me it was not my electrodes. Maybe the extra open circuit voltage might help the 161 over the 95s?

[Sberry]

They are designed with low ocv features for safety, the rod needs to have more stabilizers than 6010, hence the 6011 which was designed to be able to be used on buzzers.
Considering the cost of a dc buzzer has went to 500 or so it makes these inverters even more attractive.

[Brand X]

They are designed with low ocv features for safety, the rod needs to have more stabilizers than 6010, hence the 6011 which was designed to be able to be used on buzzers.
Considering the cost of a dc buzzer has went to 500 or so it makes these inverters even more attractive.

You can turn that off on the Sanrex Thermals, although not a feature on the 85 or 95s. I did not see a VRD on these new units.. I have to look around a bit more My 400 MST has a switch on the front panel. Some are inside the front cover.


http://www.thermadyne.com/IM_Uploads...63_84-2637.pdf

[usmcpop]

I do recall that some units have a "crispy" setting for 6010. ???

[Sberry]

I like crispy, many laugh when I say that the Weldan Power AC/DC 210 I have is my favorite portable I own, I just like the arc for general fab work with 10 or 11. Crisp and clean. The Max and the buzzer are right there too, real close.

[Brand X]

I like crispy, many laugh when I say that the Weldan Power AC/DC 210 I have is my favorite portable I own, I just like the arc for general fab work with 10 or 11. Crisp and clean. The Max and the buzzer are right there too, real close.

Bet you would really like the Thermal Scout. I still can't believe it starts, and runs my 3 hp well pump. (520 ft down well) Best $500 dollars I ever spent on a generator or welder. Blows away a Honde 3000 inverter in many areas. Those are $1800.00++ Has no problem running .035 self shielded wire with my LN-25 pro. I just bet it would run something like a Esab 160 mig unit really well.