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  1. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve G View Post
    It seems like the hobart 3035-20 will work (300143). Can anyone beat cyber welds price of $461?

    What type of wire should I use with 11 ga al?
    Steve,
    It looks like you will need the SGA-100 control unit in order to install a spool-gun. Does the price you quoted include that as well??

    4043 0.30 wire is a good all purpose wire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by urch55 View Post
    Steve,
    It looks like you will need the SGA-100 control unit in order to install a spool-gun. Does the price you quoted include that as well??

    4043 0.30 wire is a good all purpose wire.
    So I'm looking at $700 + bottle of argon to get me setup for aluminum???

    I should just return the HH187 & buy the 210 MVP so I could get the $200 direct plug in gun.
    Does this make sense to anyone else?

    Is there a performance difference between the spoolrunner 100 and the previously mentioned spool gun?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve G View Post
    I should just return the HH187 & buy the 210 MVP so I could get the $200 direct plug in gun.
    Does this make sense to anyone else?
    Yes that makes sense. I think quite a few other members did the same thing..

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    Quote Originally Posted by urch55 View Post
    Yes that makes sense. I think quite a few other members did the same thing..
    Would anybody recommend getting the millermatic 211 with MVP and auto set over the Hobart 210?

    There is a $60 difference in price spool gun included.

    I would think the miller is naturally a better quality product since it seems to be the "industry standard". Would anyone disagree?

    I kinda' like the way the hobarts look better, but that really doesn't matter that much does it???

    Also, I can get any hobart stuff I need at tractor supply, another plus.

    What path would you guys take? Hobart or Miller?

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    If you don't need the 110 capability, Northern Hardware is selling their remaining 210's, with the spool gun for something like $919 with free shipping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blacksmith View Post
    If you don't need the 110 capability, Northern Hardware is selling their remaining 210's, with the spool gun for something like $919 with free shipping.
    I saw that but it said 11-16 days to ship, I need this by the end of the week.

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    What is a good aluminum wire to get?

    4043?

    I ordered the Hobart 210 MVP w/ spool gun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve G View Post
    What is a good aluminum wire to get?

    4043?
    Steve,
    Look at my other post I already told you 0.30 4043 wire is a good all round wire..

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    Quote Originally Posted by urch55 View Post
    Steve,
    Look at my other post I already told you 0.30 4043 wire is a good all round wire..
    Oh, thanks!

    You've been a big help!

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    Choice of Welders

    Good choice - I had bought the H187, and about 6 months later wanted the spoolgun, so I ended up going out an buying the Miller 211, with Spoolgun.

    Regarding someone's comment about the Miller being better???

    Never had a problem with the Hobart 187 - my Miller died hard, after about 2 weeks. Fixed quickly by the LWS since they were a repair depot.

    I just like to point that out to Miller versus Hobart bigots... I love both however.

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    Well, been welding aluminum alot... now i need a plasma cutter.

    Thinking of the Hobart Airforce 500i - is this a quality plasma cutter? would anyone get something different than this?

    I will mainly be cutting 1/8 AL/Steel sheet metal and occasionally 1/4-3/8 steel/AL.

    Thanks -

    Btw, I need to buy it tomorrow morning so I would appreciate quick feedback!

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    Also, do I need any kind of gas for this plasma cutter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve G View Post
    Well, been welding aluminum alot... now i need a plasma cutter.

    Thinking of the Hobart Airforce 500i - is this a quality plasma cutter? would anyone get something different than this?

    I will mainly be cutting 1/8 AL/Steel sheet metal and occasionally 1/4-3/8 steel/AL.

    Thanks -

    Btw, I need to buy it tomorrow morning so I would appreciate quick feedback!
    Since you are in a hurry go with the bigger unit 700i up to 1/2" so it should give clean cuts on 3/8"..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve G View Post
    Also, do I need any kind of gas for this plasma cutter?
    No,
    Just clean dry compressed air. (air compressor)

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    An additionally, a coalescing filter to remove condensate (from the air compressor/airline).... Unless you live in Arizonia or a very dry climate.
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