Hobart 120 or Newer Model?

[Big Red]

Hi,
I'm new to welding. I need a welder for simple around the house stuff and small automotive jobs. I found a Hobart 120 with just half an hour of use on it. It is a friend's grandfathers and he only used it once. Anyway, he wants $200. My question is whether or not it is worth the price or should I spend a little more and buy the new model?

Any input will be greatly appreciated!

[Shootin Holes]

I'm guessing it's the older version of the new Handler 125 model, which goes for about $350. You can only weld 1/8" with MIG wire, or 3/16" with FluxCore.

Personally I'd save up a little more and get a Handler 140 or even a 187.

But if your only welding really small stuff, $200 ain't bad at all.

[Blacksmith]

I don't know what you consider a small automotive job, but you shouldn't be doing suspension mods (spring perches, 4 links, etc.) like you see on TV with any 110 volt welder. If you're talking sheet metal, etc. I say go for it; for $200 I would.

[Big Red]

Thanks!
I should've stated this in my question to prevent all of the cautious ones out there from chiming in about anything other than the question. I am a mechanical engineer. I specify welds and structures all of the time, so I am well aware of safety factors, inspections, welds, etc.

I am just looking for a small welder and want advice as to what would be the best direction, i.e. sheet metal, welding tabs to bumpers for lights, building a shop cart, little stuff!

So, I've read about the H120 and noticed you can set wire speed as well, unlike the 125EZ, which has only a material thickness setting. I was just curious if this is enough or if I may want the additional capability. For instance, aluminum.

Anyway, thanks in advance!

[Hobart Expert Darrell]

The Handler 120 is actually two generations up the family tree from the Handler 140. The progression was:

• Handler 120
• Handler 135
• Handler 140

It's more akin in construction to the Handler 140 than it is the Handler 125.

The top end has a similar arc to that of the Handler 140. The low end isn't as good as that of the 140. The H140 is much more capable of welding very thin material such as 24 GA steel.

Actually, the $200 price is pretty good if it's in as good of shape as you describe. The only other factor when considering your purchase may be the availablility of replacement parts, as that model went out of production in 1999.

[Big Red]

The Handler 120 is actually two generations up the family tree from the Handler 140. The progression was:

• Handler 120
• Handler 135
• Handler 140

It's more akin in construction to the Handler 140 than it is the Handler 125.

The top end has a similar arc to that of the Handler 140. The low end isn't as good as that of the 140. The H140 is much more capable of welding very thin material such as 24 GA steel.

Actually, the $200 price is pretty good if it's in as good of shape as you describe. The only other factor when considering your purchase may be the availablility of replacement parts, as that model went out of production in 1999.

Thank you very much!
I looked up the owner's manual online, and it shows how to hook up the mig capability. The unit I'm looking at does not have the additional equipment. Does Hobart still sell this? Or, rather, will the Hobart 195158 Handler 125 MIG Conversion Kit work with this model?

[FWI]

I have a Hobart 120 that's 12 years old it has been used quite often and has taken one fall off a 12' step ladder to the ground and keeps kicking. Not a whole not of capacity to weld above 3/16 or so with inner-shield but welds great. Top end if very similar to the HH 140 look up the owner's manual under Service and Support at the top of the site. For $200.00 it's a good buy. Best of luck

[Big Red]

I have a Hobart 120 that's 12 years old it has been used quite often and has taken one fall off a 12' step ladder to the ground and keeps kicking. Not a whole not of capacity to weld above 3/16 or so with inner-shield but welds great. Top end if very similar to the HH 140 look up the owner's manual under Service and Support at the top of the site. For $200.00 it's a good buy. Best of luck

Thank you!

I think I'm gonna go aheat and buy this unit!

[raleigh]

I had a 120 that I started with and gave to a young friend who needed a really good deal....I really liked it. I bought a refurbished 140 and it is a much easier to lay down a decent weld with. Most of what I weld is 1/8th so my exposure is a little limited. Anyway, I would opt for the 140. If you have to buy a gas conversion for the $200 HH120 you're getting pretty close to the cost of a refurbished HH140......just my opinion

[Hotfoot]

"if you have to buy a gas conversion for the $200 HH120 you're getting pretty close to the cost of a refurbished HH140......just my opinion"...

Ditto!

[Big Red]

I hope this doesn't get me in trouble on this site, but I bought a lincoln 3200hd. I got the unit brand new (well it was a floor model, but never turned on) for $225. It comes with everything for GMAW except the bottle. Praxair sells a filled 20cf bottle for $70 which I'll pick up next wk. I'm gonna add a dedicated 20amp GFCI outlet in my garage this wknd! Then, I'll be on my way.

I couldn't pass up the deal. I figure that I can get my money back later if I decide to upgrade to a 220V.

Thanks for everyones help!