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    P&h

    I just got a very old P&H welder model number TWI-200 does anyone know anything about these, and if theres a manual to be had anywhere? Thank you

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    Thumbs up bkahler

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    Has had his share fo thrills with old P&H's.give I'm a PM.

    I found them stucturally, almost indestructable, but have no
    electrical knowledge to offer.
    VG

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    pictures of the welder

    here is some pictures
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    another picture

    I have no idea how old this is
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    oldie

    How old is this thing?????

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    welding

    Hey hooked it up to dryer connection and fired it up is is, all it did was replace the 30amp dryer plug it had on it. Set on low 70 amps and fired it up worked great. Started with small rod at first burned great, put it up to 90amps on low and tried heavy duty rod like they use on pipe lines, wow smooth as butter, this old thing is great. Lays down one nice weld, as good as the welders we use at school. My uncle defitenly gave me a great gift. 7010-P1 heavy duty rod
    Last edited by Ronnie151; 03-15-2009 at 03:16 PM. Reason: give rod size

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    I would have bet it still worked.
    I would consider delicately removing the shell and
    clear away the decades of dust (possible bug or rodant nests)

    And if there's a fan, blow that out too. If the fan turns freely great,
    if not, pull that apart and clean it too.
    Relube with just a small amount of light oil.
    Then HAVE FUN.

    vg

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    cleaning

    Cant remove the shell she welded on at the top. Really doesnt look bad inside, been keep in garage. It has no fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie151 View Post
    Cant remove the shell she welded on at the top. Really doesnt look bad inside, been keep in garage. It has no fan.
    I think your P&H was built in the 1940's because of the curvy art deco style.If all you use is 1/8 inch rod, you should be fine on duty cycle and tripping breaker constantly.P&H was a major welder manufacturer in its time.They made some huge by todays standards tig machines. They also made portables.

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    I would suspect it is late 40's or a bit later. There are a few P&H models advertised in Popular Science and Popular Mechanics issues of 1948 and 1949, so it seems as though they may have focused some attention on the smaller market about that time.

    I don't know exactly when Harnischfeger first made welders. Klaus L. Hansen (orig. from Norway) consulted and designed welders for P&H starting about 1921. Some old P&H ads mention Hansen as though it was a model – latest seen was 1939. Hansen worked for Westinghouse and then Allis before becoming a consultant.
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    portable

    This must be what they considered a portable its on its own dolly of sorts. I bet it weighs 300 pounds.

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    welder

    Well it looks like this old thing will sit around for a few more years. Had a electrician out to run a wire for it, it takes 55amps but theres a problem, my house is old and the wires comming into the house are only 60 amp wires. So he quoted me a price of 1800.00 to run new wires meter box and all. Gonna have to really think on this one, sell, trade, move, lol, **** shame it welds so nice before it throws the breaker.

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    get another quote, I rescently had a new 200 amp service drop installed for $1200.00 it is a much easier job then you would think, most of the expense is parts, not labor

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    wlder

    Any ideas what the value of this thing would be??

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    I saw a similar old Lincoln Idealarc around here that I probably could have gotten for $75. I don't know what the copper inside is worth.
    --- RJL ----------------------------------------------

    Ordinarily I'm insane, but I have lucid moments when I'm merely stupid.
    -------------------------
    DialArc 250
    SyncroWave 250 w/Coolmate 3
    SP-175+
    TA 161STL
    Lincwelder AC180C circa 1950
    Victor & Smith's O/A
    Dayton (Miller) spot welder
    1200 sq.ft. of garage filled with crap
    A kid that can actually run the stuff +++

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