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  1. #1
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    Siphoning ideas from the info-cosmos.

    Just after buying 2400 lbs. of 30 year shingles.....
    I found I could have had a steel roof for 60 % cost, by
    agreeing to be a demo-house.

    I would weld a 10 gage custom-fit bonett for my roof and be done
    with it. Probably last 60 years.

    Lacking a sky-hook I remembered U-tube footage of a solo-smoke-stack
    repair......I got all of these homemade jacks in-place from that one
    ladder-placement. Had no choice, porch in the way.
    I just kept cantalevering off the ladder and tie-ing down.
    Got the Ebee's acouple O times.

    Remembered the famous pic of a dozen steel-workers having lunch,
    on a girder about 700 feet up like they were on a park-bench.
    The guy on the far right had a whiskey bottle.
    I still need to be welcome at the service counter at the Home-Depott
    so I just opened a Sprecker Brown ale. 16oz.

    Spilled about a quarter of it. Mashing a hornet.
    Perfect !! No more Ebeee's.

    Cheers
    VG
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    In the beginning, the Earth was without form, and void.
    When one picks up some wood or metal or stone and shapes it into something usefull
    ... I beleive that it has to be a deliberate effort to disavow a creator.

    As you work these, and join them, you feel the force and the will of He
    who formed and shaped the very resorces that you now add your will and force to.
    Further one surely can know when your will and force is not aligned with His.

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    Lightbulb Oh Yeah .......

    I remembered a Buster Keaton movie.
    Useing pullies.

    I am not looking forward to full bundels of shingles up that ladder.
    I would like to rig a spar, and load enough tare-off debree into
    a basket to bring a bundle up from the ground.

    Grab the bundle, have a helper dump the debriss, and load another bundle.
    I would then fill the second basket with debriss and Bob's yer Uncle.

    vg


    In the beginning, the Earth was without form, and void.
    When one picks up some wood or metal or stone and shapes it into something usefull
    ... I beleive that it has to be a deliberate effort to disavow a creator.

    As you work these, and join them, you feel the force and the will of He
    who formed and shaped the very resorces that you now add your will and force to.
    Further one surely can know when your will and force is not aligned with His.

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    Ikes! I don't like working on a roof over 12-12 pitch. I do see that you, too, are concerned with making sure the ladder stays where you want it to. That's probably the scariest part for me. Metal roofing seems to be the way to go anymore, if the neighborhood likes it. I've seen comparisons where they show the metal roof being less expensive than asphalt even at full price. Don't know how it all works out in real life, though. We re-roofed Mom and Dad's house a couple of years ago with these corrugated asphalt panels. Kind of a pain to work with, but a lot faster than shingles. Supposed to last longer, too. We'll see. Have fun up there. I think I'd be trying to find a way to tie myself off to something on the other side of the house. That way, if I slipped, or the wind blew me backward, I'd be dangling there off the side of the house upside down.

    Dave
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    Quote Originally Posted by whateg0 View Post
    Ikes! I think I'd be trying to find a way to tie myself off to something on the other side of the house. That way, if I slipped, or the wind blew me backward, I'd be dangling there off the side of the house upside down.

    Dave
    I was tied while setting the jacks, now that I've been up there all day,
    don't seem ta need it.

    Wow Black shinges ws. 100 year old shakes.
    The roof cooled off 247 degrees where only the cedar remains.

    Back up there.
    vg


    In the beginning, the Earth was without form, and void.
    When one picks up some wood or metal or stone and shapes it into something usefull
    ... I beleive that it has to be a deliberate effort to disavow a creator.

    As you work these, and join them, you feel the force and the will of He
    who formed and shaped the very resorces that you now add your will and force to.
    Further one surely can know when your will and force is not aligned with His.

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    I am doing a small roof on my place August 30. Pitch is a lot easier than yours though. I priced out 20 bundles of 40 year fiberglass shingles at $500. To cover the same area in painted ag steel would be $1200. That price didn't include any steel trim reuired or ridge venting. Needless to say I have decided to go with the shingles. I did pay a little extra to have them boom truck them to the roof the morning of the job. Figure since its all volunteer labor I should do what I can to make it easy on them.

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    vicegrip! In the Buster Keaton movies he never seemed to get hurt unlike in real life!

    Remember the safe pitch for your ladder (1 to 4) and don't forget to tie it off at the top also. And a trip to Homey Depot should allow you to get a fall arrest system a lot cheaper than a trip to the hospital for a week or so. I ain't afraid of nothing and that scares me!

    Please be careful and remember to not over extend your body lest you become subject to the laws of gravity.
    Flash me! I'm a welder.

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    Wow, that's a steep pitch. And pretty high up too. Be careful up there. You doing this by yourself?

    I just did my own roof with 32 bundles of asphalt shingles. I carried about 10 full bundles up the ladder and then decided half a bundle at a time seemed to work out better, though takes twice as long. If you can rig up some sort of pulley system, that would help a lot.
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    [QUOTE=Bob the Welder;333263]
    Remember the safe pitch for your ladder (1 to 4)
    Check: the angle is contact at all crucial points, I don't have much space options.
    and don't forget to tie it off at the top also.
    Check: secured top and bottom.
    And a trip to Homey Depot should allow you to get a fall arrest system
    Check: H.D'o is useless, no harness .... $180 at Menards.
    And no, steep-angle roofing jacks. Only for shallow.
    BUT they do have a cool Stock-Car.

    I ain't afraid of nothing and that scares me!
    I respond similarly, and have the same concern.

    Please be careful and remember to not over extend your body lest you become subject to the laws of gravity.


    In the beginning, the Earth was without form, and void.
    When one picks up some wood or metal or stone and shapes it into something usefull
    ... I beleive that it has to be a deliberate effort to disavow a creator.

    As you work these, and join them, you feel the force and the will of He
    who formed and shaped the very resorces that you now add your will and force to.
    Further one surely can know when your will and force is not aligned with His.

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    Wink All important Monkey food.

    I will emerge from this far healthy-er or Dead.
    This is too much for one man.

    I asked my wife this-morning, what can I eat to get my engine started.
    She said have a couple Bannanas. Some tuna sandwitches.....and...

    **** those bananas do the trick.
    After all I'm climbing up to tree level throwing stuff down,
    and making strange sounds.
    Should have guessed Bananas.

    Cheers
    Phil


    In the beginning, the Earth was without form, and void.
    When one picks up some wood or metal or stone and shapes it into something usefull
    ... I beleive that it has to be a deliberate effort to disavow a creator.

    As you work these, and join them, you feel the force and the will of He
    who formed and shaped the very resorces that you now add your will and force to.
    Further one surely can know when your will and force is not aligned with His.

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    Be Careful

    Phil,
    Doggone it be careful up there. There's only one of you on this forum, and we don't want to have to look for a replacement.
    Since nobody's said it yet, I will.

    "Just remember, it's not the fall that kills ya, it's the sudden stop at the end."
    See ya,
    Jim Don

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimDon View Post
    ...and we don't want to have to look for a replacement. ...
    Well, glad somebody said it. What a task that would be, huh?

    Dave
    Still building my new old truck - see the progress!
    http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/65...-coe-idea.html
    http://www.hobartwelders.com/weldtal...ad.php?t=27017

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    Smile Thanks for the sentament...BUT

    Quote Originally Posted by JimDon View Post
    Phil,
    Doggone it be careful up there.
    "Just remember, it's not the fall that kills ya, it's the sudden stop at the end."
    See ya,
    Jim Don

    I realised today that at this rate I'll be done about Labor day.
    An out-of-work machinist freind, told me he did Ca$h work all last
    summer for his B' in-law.

    They toss the ladder on the edge.....If it aint long enough,
    they pull them-selves up over the eve.
    He followed them up, and at lunch-time, it took 4 of them coaxsing him
    to get him back off the roof.
    Even bribed him with Ex-large sub and a pitcher.

    I got more done today than the last three.
    To-Da LOOO.

    Phil


    In the beginning, the Earth was without form, and void.
    When one picks up some wood or metal or stone and shapes it into something usefull
    ... I beleive that it has to be a deliberate effort to disavow a creator.

    As you work these, and join them, you feel the force and the will of He
    who formed and shaped the very resorces that you now add your will and force to.
    Further one surely can know when your will and force is not aligned with His.

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    Now I have visions of Phil, swinging from the second-story gutters, eating bananas and tossing shingles.

    I once did some free-lance re-shingling when I was about 18. I was taking classical guitar lessons that summer as well. One day, I got sloppy, and pounded two different finger tips with the hammer while trying to hold the roofing nails (same day). I finished the shingling job, but not the guitar lessons. Somewhere inside, there's a Segovia just waiting to come out.
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    Phil, youre gonna have to change your handle; Odd Job comes to mind....

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    Funny you should say that

    Quote Originally Posted by TEK View Post
    Phil, youre gonna have to change your handle; Odd Job comes to mind....
    Was my handle on a different forum, and my motto for decades.
    Odd-Job.


    In the beginning, the Earth was without form, and void.
    When one picks up some wood or metal or stone and shapes it into something usefull
    ... I beleive that it has to be a deliberate effort to disavow a creator.

    As you work these, and join them, you feel the force and the will of He
    who formed and shaped the very resorces that you now add your will and force to.
    Further one surely can know when your will and force is not aligned with His.

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