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    10/3 extension cord??

    Im gonna have to build a 25 ft extension cord for the HH210.
    I cant see where I can easily buy anything "off the rack" thats 10/3 with the proper plug and socket on it..??

    I decided to wire the 6-50 recepticle with 10/3 as compared to the #8 I had laying around and have both a 30 amp and a 40 amp breaker I can use ( STILL confused from the manual which is the proper breaker???)

    So..bottom line is.?..is stranded copper 10/3 suitable for a 25 foot extension cord for the HH210??
    Last edited by Sully2; 07-05-2007 at 02:41 PM.
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    Isn't this info in your manual?
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    Thats NOT what I asked!!
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    I believe you want to use a cord instead of regular stranded wire you buy off the spool. Cord will flex better and will resist breaking down since it has finer strands. I'm sure Mac can better explain.

    Here is an 8 gauge 25ft. extension cord with proper plug/receptacle on it.
    69.00 with free shipping.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/WELDERS-EXTENSIO...QQcmdZViewItem
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    Here is a good discussion about building an extension cord..

    http://www.weldingweb.com/showthread.php?t=11537

    From posts #34 and 35.. Mac's comments.

    Quote Originally Posted by MAC702
    It's always nice when you post something like that to at least mention to others who might try it, that it's illegal.

    You no doubt did it because you were using material you had on hand. Romex, as you can see in the photo, is not very flexible, and is really only designed to be bent during a permanent installation.

    Real cords are stranded with much finer wire, designed to take constant flexing which can break the larger strands in Romex, especailly if the utmost care wasn't taken during stripping of the individual wires. The slightest nick on the copper will be sure to be a broken strand in a short period of time.

    I'm not telling you not to use it, and you've obviously already learned how to deal with its tripping hazards.
    Quote Originally Posted by MAC702
    It's stranded, but NOT the fine stranding designed for flexible cords. It's stranded just enough to allow it to bend while being installed inside a wall.

    It looks like either #8 or #6, so the main conductors will be stranded, but it will have a #10 solid for the uninsulated ground. Real cords also have an insulated ground.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sully2 View Post
    So..bottom line is.?..is stranded copper 10/3 suitable for a 25 foot extension cord for the HH210??
    10/3 cord is good for 30 amps at 230 volts. I don't see how the HH210 would pull more than 30 amps. My MM210 used a 30 amp breaker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crawler View Post
    I believe you want to use a cord instead of regular stranded wire you buy off the spool. Cord will flex better and will resist breaking down since it has finer strands. I'm sure Mac can better explain.

    Here is an 8 gauge 25ft. extension cord with proper plug/receptacle on it.
    69.00 with free shipping.

    Cord?..stranded??...I meant the "flexible stuff". I'll see what my LWS has ( if anything??) and if he isnt even close I'll just buy the one you listed..that way no monkeying around with the ends.
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    That's not a bad deal on the premade cord. The ends will cost you at least $30, probably more. 25' of #8 SOW cord is probably pretty close to $40 (I haven't looked in a while, but copper is getting pretty pricey).

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    I recently bought 30 ft of 10/3 SJTW Power Cable from an eBay seller called Ewireway for .75¢/ft. ($22.50 + $13.31 shipping=$35.81 total). I don't see that listed currently but their phone number is 951-735-1204 if you want to call and ask about it.
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    That isn't a bad price. I just got 30' of 8/3 SO cord from my electrical supplier and two ends from Tractor supply. Mine will end up around 90 bucks. I probably should not have gotten the ends at TSC, but they were there, I was there.....and I didn't feel like going back to town.
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    Sully2,

    10/3 will be fine. I ran my MM210 on a 30A breaker for a year with no trouble, running it on a 10/3 50-foot cord. The hardware is available. 6-50R's that go on a cord end are available now, too. I can't rmrmber where I saw them, but check the major manufacturer's web sites. I'll try to find you alink later.

    Any SO-type cord will do the trick. I got SJOOW, which is impervious to everything including newt sperm!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sully2 View Post
    Cord?..stranded??...I meant the "flexible stuff". I'll see what my LWS has ( if anything??) and if he isnt even close I'll just buy the one you listed..that way no monkeying around with the ends.
    I have a 8/3 25 footer that I got from BRWelders (same as the one in the link) thats almost unused I can let go of, right now it's just hanging on the wall as I built a 50ft 10/3 a few months ago. If you want it send me an email or PM and we can talk details.
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    Lowes has 10/3 with the 20 amp 110v ends for $55.......I can get the correct 220v plug and recep for $5 each.......but the one that Sundown has would probably be the best bet....
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    The 210 will work on cord as light as 12, it pulls about 20A screaming its guts out. Sully, as for the breaker technically that machine can be used on circuits up to 50A and a wire as large as you want to feed it with. If you got good service it wont add insult to use a 12, my choice is 10 for these and with heavier machines I often use 8 but 10 will work with almost all these machines to 50A, especially home use. So,,,,, you can use any of the breakers you got with a wire as small as 12, its the code minimum, larger is always better but the distance is short. I like 50 ft if I think I need 30, dont cost much more and makes it a ton easier to get around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sberry View Post
    The 210 will work on cord as light as 12, it pulls about 20A screaming its guts out. Sully, as for the breaker technically that machine can be used on circuits up to 50A and a wire as large as you want to feed it with. If you got good service it wont add insult to use a 12, my choice is 10 for these and with heavier machines I often use 8 but 10 will work with almost all these machines to 50A, especially home use. So,,,,, you can use any of the breakers you got with a wire as small as 12, its the code minimum, larger is always better but the distance is short. I like 50 ft if I think I need 30, dont cost much more and makes it a ton easier to get around.

    VERY interesting!!!!
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