Used the Cronotron rod

[gde]

I got some cast rod from the Cronotron rep a couple weeks back and used it yesterday for a small cast weld. Worked VERY good. Only problem I had was I stuck the rod once and after that it was toast. It welded very well and had a smooth and stable arc. I WILL buy this rod in the future for other cast iron repairs!

Thanks Cronotron Rep and your sample has sold me!!--Grant

[cc/cv]

what was the percentage of nickel? and the price? or was it a stainless rod ? and what was the application ?

[MAC702]

I doubt they give their proprietery ingredients, but that's certainly their right.

How about a comparison to the performance of known Ni99, Ni55, or stainless electrodes, in the same type of repair?

[cc/cv]

its required in the MSDS , it will tell each and every property in the rod. , and thats public knowlege, so if i had the part # we could see , it may well just be a nickel rod, or a variation of it .?? i agree a comparioson un-biased , would help.??

[Pumpkinhead]

its required in the MSDS , it will tell each and every property in the rod. , and thats public knowlege, so if i had the part # we could see , it may well just be a nickel rod, or a variation of it .?? i agree a comparioson un-biased , would help.??

constant current/voltage,
i have personal knowledge (learned here) that a manufacturer does not have to disclose everything, they can claim "trade secret" and are exempt, except to certain individuals under special circumstances

[trial&error]

its required in the MSDS , it will tell each and every property in the rod. , and thats public knowlege, so if i had the part # we could see , it may well just be a nickel rod, or a variation of it .?? i agree a comparioson un-biased , would help.??

MSDS only has to disclose what it contains there's no requirement to disclose percentages, although most people will disclose specifics especially as a selling point, they can claim it to be proprietary info and only disclose what elements or compounds it contains.

[gde]

Fellas, I don't know the % of each element. Check with the Cronotron rep. I also have not stick welded cast before. All I CAN say is that it was a VERY smooth and stable arc. Welded very well given the position I was in.

[Cronatron Rep]

The breakdown of what it contains

Aluminum 1-3%
Graphite 1-3%
Manganese .5 -1%
Silicon < .5%
Barium Carbonate < .5%
Calcium Carbonate < .5%
Calcium Fluoride 1-3%
Silicone Dioxide .5%
Strontium Carbonate 6-12%
Silcate Binders 1-3%
Organic Extrusion Aids < 1%
Iron 35-45%
Nickel 40%


ASME/AWS SFA/A5.15-90

[boilerman79]

I use the cronatron 333 a lot and really like them.Have used them to weld cast iron[i know wrong rod] but it worked great and at the time it was either 333 or 6010.[all i had on hand]Used it to weld some Inconell igniter tips to boiler gas igniters,and they are still holding up.But it is pricy,but it aint my dime.

[gde]

Cronotron Rep,
I know this wasn't an in-depth review of your product. When the original project (cast engine block) comes in, I will again follow up. I just thought it was only fair, to you, that I mention it since I was able to use it even on a small project.

Like I said, I will use this product in the future and you should have a fella giving you a hollar from another board where I mentioned you and the cast rod. Thanks again.--Grant

[Cronatron Rep]

good or bad !

Thanks my man.

[gde]

good or bad !.

It was a "GOOD" experience if that is what this means

I will give a more in depth review when I can actually spend some time doing better work. Like I said, with the limited use I had, it was great! Thanks again, Grant

[cc/cv]

if a customer asks, and most companies will for certain jobs, for a msds sheet on a particular rod, the companies do give them,
so basically its a 40% nickel rod, with some other additives, that answered my question, i wanted to know if it was a nickel based rod, and how much .thanks for the insight.