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  1. #16
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    Jan 2006
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    clawson mi
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    shop

    when you pour the floor put a piece of 3ft by 3ft b1inch steel with some big pieces of scrap welded on the bottom flush with concrete. use any size that was what i had. cant tell you how many times i welded lugs to it to pull stuff . my friend sunk 2 20 ft i beams in his floor ,he raced buggies sure helped to straighten frames.

  2. #17
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    You bought into the covenants when you bought your house. If you didn't like them, you should not have purchased. As stated above, they are not laws enforced by the local government, but rather private agreements (a contract) between you and the seller, which run with the property. I think you would be foolish to develop anything in violation of those agreements. Go find a place where you can build what you want.
    That's my 2 cents worth...for what its worth...
    "Good Enough Never Is"

  3. #18
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    Jan 2004
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    Hammond, Wisconsin
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    Building within the covenants is my plan. I was well aware of the covenants when I purchased the land. I'm happy to live with my choice. I'm pretty annoyed that very few of the other members of the community are complying - but I'm leaving in a couple of years anyway .

    The next place will be a little closer to perfection - maybe...
    Last edited by Fubeca; 01-29-2006 at 12:17 AM. Reason: clicked too fast

  4. #19
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    I have dealt with the HOA from HE## before. My problems were of a different nature though.

    Many HOAs are on real power trips. One of the HOAs around here (reported on the local paper) got a zelot on the board and he rode his bicycle around every day just looking for something. The guy was paid $40K per year. The people finally banded together and voted him off the board and got him fired. Not an easy task though.

    Believe me I wouldn't even go 1 sq ft over the 600'. If your covenants don't mention a HOA then I think any other home owner could just take you to court over breaking the covenants.

  5. #20
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    Jan 2004
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    Hammond, Wisconsin
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    21' 8" x 27' 8" inside dimensions = 599.12 ft^2 - seems just right to me .

  6. #21
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    Talking Hey Fubar

    why would you park vehicles in your new shop?

  7. #22
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    Jan 2004
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    Hammond, Wisconsin
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    Yea ahol?

    Dual purpose shop - lots of wrenching

  8. #23
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    Jul 2003
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    San Bruno CA
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    Fubeca,

    I don't know what style of contruction you are going to use but if the square footage restrictions are based on inside floor area I'd be tempted to use oversize framing to allow for the possibility of built in storage between framing members. A small increase in ceiling height can also provide substantial overhead storage as well.

    Allen

  9. #24
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    Jan 2005
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    Dallas, Texas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fubeca
    21' 8" x 27' 8" inside dimensions = 599.12 ft^2 - seems just right to me .
    That should work well for ya, and stay in compliance with the building codes.

    The only problem I see is a shop that size--- mine is 17 x 32, which is close to what you want to build, is keeping if from filling up with all manner of excess crap that you don't want to store in the house.

    If you can keep it as a true workshop, you'll be fine. Get stuff in, work on it, finish it, then get it out......... it'll be perfect.

    However:
    (Keep in mind that Nature hates a vaccum, and any empty space will soon become occupied)
    If you, or the wife looks upon it as a free storage shed in addition to being your workshop..
    You will soon have a nice storage shed, with perhaps a small walkway between all the crap--- that really should go to the city dump, instead of you having a workshop at all.
    Last edited by Winger Ed.; 01-30-2006 at 01:43 AM.
    "Gone are the days of wooden ships, and Iron men.
    I doubt if we shall ever see thier likes again".
    Circa 1900.
    Author: unknown member of the USCG.

  10. #25
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    Aug 2005
    Location
    South carolina
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    My shop is 24X30 witha 12x9 roll up door in the gable end. Therefore I can pull something
    in the shop upward of 30 foot. Make sure the roll up door is at least 12 foot wide. Also on the end of my shop where the roll up door is brought the roof out 10 more feet. This will keep alot of rain and sun out if you want to be in the shop with the big door open.Actualy my shop is 24 by 40 with only 24 by 30 being enclosed. The extra ten foot on the front really came in handy and since it is not enclosed there may be way to work it by your neighborhoods guidlines. Definately insulate the roof and walls. You will not beleive how much cooler it is in the summer time. Oh, also if you are going with metal on the outside, screw it. I nailed mine and I have regreted it every sense. Put in plenty of electrical sockets and try to put in 200 amp service. One last thing. If you think of something you would like to do to it while building it go ahead and do it because if you dont you will never go back and do it. Just some things to think about. Just some ideas!!!

  11. #26
    miestro_jerry Guest
    I use a 2 car garage and am adding a 20 x 24 work building to my property for more shop space, plus a 8 x 12 building for the lawn mower and generator, plus fuel storage for both.

    Several places have Rent To Own options for work buildings.

    Jerry

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