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    Flux or gas?

    Hi all,

    I'm working on a project in which I need to weld some 16ga mild steel to aluminized exhaust pipe of about the same thickness. (Basically I'm welding some baffles inside the pipe - has nothing to do with exhaust other than that's the material I have.) Given that the pipe is aluminized (not aluminum!), should I use flux-core wire or will solid+gas work?

    Thanks,

    Gary
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    If it were mine, I'd use solid wire and gas. I think you'd get cleaner welds and less chance of burn through.
    Just one of many opinions out there.
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    Thanks for the input, Bowtie. As oppsed to what is preferred, my real question is will solid+gas even work given that the pipe is aluminized - I'm not sure I'll get a clean weld because of the aluminized coating. If I can use solid+gas that is certainly the way I would prefer to go for the reasons you stated.

    Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bowtieman31
    If it were mine, I'd use solid wire and gas. I think you'd get cleaner welds and less chance of burn through.
    Just one of many opinions out there.
    thats the way to go. use small dia. .023 or .030.

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    The aluminized pipe may give you trouble as that unless things really have changed since I got off of work today, aluminum doesn't weld to anything except aluminum, so file off the aluminum coating and weld away.

    Personally I like solid and gas, but then again I like my TIG welder much better than my MIG welder.

    Jerry

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    Quote Originally Posted by miestro_jerry
    so file off the aluminum coating and weld away.
    That's what I was wondering. The muffler shop guys weld on this stuff but I don't know that they use MIG - that's what prompted my original question.

    OK - rather than speculate I'll dig out some scrap and try it.

    Thanks
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    I would 3rd the opinions of Lars66 and Bowtieman

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    The aluminized coating is so thin, you blow right through it, even with a light-duty MIG. Pretend it isn't even there and concentrate on everything else, and you'll do fine. Use .023 with C25 for best results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAC702
    The aluminized coating is so thin, you blow right through it, even with a light-duty MIG. Pretend it isn't even there and concentrate on everything else, and you'll do fine. Use .023 with C25 for best results.

    Yup, that's what I figured out! I used .030 on 75/25 gas. I set my HH180 to V=2, WF=40 and it worked great on this material. I went ahead and welded everything up and considering my beginner skills and the weld complexity (for me) it came out pretty good.

    I appreciate all the input!

    Thanks,
    Gary

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