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chumly
01-25-2003, 08:07 AM
i'm looking for an opinon on jet band saws. fastenal can ordr me one for a reasonal price, i would like a users opinon on this machine please! i got my new mm175 fired up last night, what a beautiful machine it is.:D :D i welded a grinder stand together that i had cut out during the week.:D i used .023 wire which came in the box and bought a 156cft. tank of c25. i have a roll of .030 wire, after using the.023 i wish i would have bought a roll of .035 wire to try. i'm welding mostly 1/8 inch. still no compliants!:D :D chumly.
Are you talking about the small 4x6 JET with the 64.5 inch blade? Aweaver and deere_x475guy just bought bandsaws this size and decided that the JET was not worth the extra $50-60 over the price of the one at TSC. I'm sure they will chime in when they are online.
chumly
01-25-2003, 02:46 PM
Will,
this is the same machine, menards had one for $259.00, i brought one home, but it's still in the box. i found one made in china for $180.00, but it looked pretty cheep. the jet had a better stand. i almost went to tsc but gas and time spent looking adds up too.:) thanks! chumly.
deere_x475guy
01-26-2003, 07:06 AM
Ditto what Will and Aaron have already stated. We are in the process of doing upgrades currently to our saws. Will already has his cart for the saw pretty much completed and has a liquid catch tray build for using coolant on the machine. Today we are getting together at my home to figure out the hydrolic feed for these saws. We will be posting all the mods to the board when they are completed. Will has done a great job finding the coolant kit we needed and the hydrolic cylinders.
Good luck on your decision.
Bob
Scott V
01-26-2003, 09:23 AM
this one keeps calling my name.
I can get a way better price, than their asking.
I do have a little milwaukie portable with stand
That will have to do until I hit the lottery.
The model 1600 would do it.
http://www.angelfire.com/nj3/bandsaw/ellisbandsaw.html
Originally posted by Scott V
this one keeps calling my name.
I can get a way better price, than their asking.
I do have a little milwaukie portable with stand
That will have to do until I hit the lottery.
The model 1600 would do it.
http://www.angelfire.com/nj3/bandsaw/ellisbandsaw.html
Scott
We have the 1600 at work. The swivel head feature is real nice for when you want to cut an angle. All you have to do is loosen the tightening knob by hand and then pivot the saw to what ever angle you want to set the band to. On my 7x12 Jet saw that I have at home, to cut a 45 I have to actually, remove the fixed jaw of the vise and bolt it at a different position on the bed of the saw. Then of course I have to reposition the saw so that metal can be cut with out hitting other tools in the shop. The one thing that I dislike on the 1600 is the tensioning side of the vise. Instead of having a screw type mechanism that would allow you to tighten parts real secure., they have designed a cam lever mechanism that makes it difficult to secure large shapes in the vise. For example a while back I was trying to cut some 6" x 6 " x .250 sq tube , and we just couldn t get this mechanism to hold this heavy material securely . I ended up using a C clamp, to tighten the tube securely to the fixed jaw of the vise. On pipe or round tubing, you have to clamp the material with a C clamp or it tries to rotate. Now, a local machine shop that we deal with has this saw too and they have designed and built a screw mechanism to replace this cam mechanism with.
The quality of the finish cut is excellent , dead on in both directions.
Scott V
01-26-2003, 02:49 PM
Dan,
It's good to here a report on the very saw I like best.The vice I could live with for awhile.
If you start looking at wet saws,then the ellis matches up real well in price vs performance.
This is one saw worth paying extra,because it's head,and shoulders above the imports.Even the imports that cost more.
I could pick that saw up for $1900.00 plus shipping.
Someday?
chumly
01-26-2003, 07:20 PM
hey guys, i bought and decided to keep the jet bandsaw( horizontal/vertical) type. i did go over to tsc and look at their bandsaw, i liked the jet a little better.:) personal choice. tsc did have a real nice selection of hobart wire and accessaries. at our store hobart flux core .030-.035 wire just under $10.00 for a 2lb. roll. i thought that was pretty reasonable! happy with a new toy:D :D :D chumly.
ChadRat
01-27-2003, 09:39 AM
I have a 4 x 6 band saw. What kind of blades is everyone running? Where do you get them? I got my saw for $135. Harbor Freight was having a sale on them. There is a traveling tool company that comes to town once a year. I showed them the HF ad and they sold me the saw at the same price. The stand does suck but I have some ideas to fix it. :)
Mike Sherman
01-27-2003, 10:51 AM
I thought the $15,500.00 I paid for my saw was a steal. The real good saws go straight up from there. Sorry guys, I know your saws are for the garage and mine is industrial. I just thought you might want to know what the rest of us pay.
Memfuzz
01-27-2003, 12:50 PM
Anybody have experience with this Jet?
Specifications
Stock Number: 414459
Model: HVBS-7MW
Round Capacity at 90 degrees (in): 7
Round Capacity at 45 degrees (in): 4-1/2
Rectangle Capacity at 90 degrees (in): 2 x 12 - 7 x 8-1/2
Rectangle Capacity at 45 degrees (in): 7 x 5
Throat Depth (in): 7
Vertical Worktable (in): 9-3/8 x 10
Vise Swivels: 45 degrees
Blade Size (in): 3/4 x 0.032 x 93
Blade Wheel Diameter (in): 11-3/4
Blade Speeds (FPM): 85, 130, 180, 285
Bed Height (in): 23
Floor Space Required (in): 20-1/2 x 49-1/2
Motor (UL Listed): 3/4 HP, 1 Ph 115/230V Prewired 115V
Net Weight (lbs): 318
I'm thinking about getting this one. It's going to run about $850. Comments appreciated.
That sounds like a good saw. Jet is #1 in my book.
Roger
01-27-2003, 03:14 PM
Mike Sherman, how about a picture and some specs for your Steal of a saw?
Scott V
01-27-2003, 04:25 PM
yabut,can you roll your saw to a job site?For $15,500.00 it better drive itself there.
Memfuzz,
I think message board member wlbrown has this saw, Drop an email to him, but I think he is quite satisified with it.
Originally posted by Memfuzz
Anybody have experience with this Jet?
Specifications
Stock Number: 414459
Model: HVBS-7MW
Round Capacity at 90 degrees (in): 7
Round Capacity at 45 degrees (in): 4-1/2
Rectangle Capacity at 90 degrees (in): 2 x 12 - 7 x 8-1/2
Rectangle Capacity at 45 degrees (in): 7 x 5
Throat Depth (in): 7
Vertical Worktable (in): 9-3/8 x 10
Vise Swivels: 45 degrees
Blade Size (in): 3/4 x 0.032 x 93
Blade Wheel Diameter (in): 11-3/4
Blade Speeds (FPM): 85, 130, 180, 285
Bed Height (in): 23
Floor Space Required (in): 20-1/2 x 49-1/2
Motor (UL Listed): 3/4 HP, 1 Ph 115/230V Prewired 115V
Net Weight (lbs): 318
I'm thinking about getting this one. It's going to run about $850. Comments appreciated.
I ve had mine for about 10 years, and the only thing that I ve ever had to replace on it was the band. In this amount of time though I have only replaced the band 4 times.
My saw produces very accurate cuts. I have cut 10" wide channel with it and the final cut was a perfect 90 degree cut. There was no visible gap along the blade of my square.
The one thing that I dislike about the saw is the fact that the wheels for moving it around are in fixed position. It would have been nice if they would have included two wheels that swiveled so that the saw could be manuvered around bettter. If I was a little more ambitious, I would probably just modify the machine.
$850 that is incredible. 10 years ago mine cost me $900.:( I was about 25 yrs old at the time when I bought it, and the only reason my wife let me get it was because The tool store that I deal with allows me to make interest free monthly payments. It took me 5 months to pay for it.
Anyway, for me the saw has been well worth the money that I spent on it.
Mike Sherman
01-28-2003, 07:16 AM
Go to the attached W.F Wells site and look at the F-16-1. It is a newer version of mine. I don't have the cost of this one, I guarentee it is more than I want to spend unless I really need to.
http://www.wfwells.com/products.htm
For those of you who want to look at $45,000 and up saws go to
http://www.mayvillemachine.com/marvsaws.htm#V10
Have fun guys.
Rocky D
01-28-2003, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by Mike Sherman
Go to the attached W.F Wells site and look at the F-16-1. It is a newer version of mine. I don't have the cost of this one, I guarentee it is more than I want to spend unless I really need to.
http://www.wfwells.com/products.htm
For those of you who want to look at $45,000 and up saws go to
http://www.mayvillemachine.com/marvsaws.htm#V10
Have fun guys.
One would definately have to have a bigger garage!:D
At my plant we had two Marvel saws...super accurate, and powerful. We Only have one, now and it's getting overworked. Downsizing claimed the other one.:mad:
Al T.
01-28-2003, 03:33 PM
Incredible machine.
Would it fit thru a 6 foot door opening in my basement? I should quit dreaming, it probably needs 3 phase power.
Roger
01-28-2003, 06:43 PM
The roller table is as impressive as the saw. Nice shop.