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TOOMANYJEEPS
01-15-2003, 09:56 AM
Looking to buy either Miller Spectrum 625 or Hypertherm 600. Please give me your opinions on these machines. Or any other machines recommended. Need 1/2" capacity.
Thanks:confused:

Scott V
01-15-2003, 10:57 AM
I would give a hard look at the new Thermal dynamics cutmaster 50.It's nice.I do own a smaller version,and also a esab 1125 that works great.You notice I didn't say esab in the smaller ones.They work pretty good,but no pilot arc for expanded type metal.You probally could not really make a mistake in buying any plasma from Thermal,Miller,Hypertherm.I would throw esab in on the larger machines.

ZACHV
01-15-2003, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by TOOMANYJEEPS
Looking to buy either Miller Spectrum 625 or Hypertherm 600. Please give me your opinions on these machines. Or any other machines recommended. Need 1/2" capacity.
Thanks:confused:

Geez, you are everywhere!

Tim, I have heard nothing but the absolute best from Hypertherm and as you know that is the way I am going. Either way you go let me know when you plan to order so that we may be able to get a discount if we order together.

TOOMANYJEEPS
01-15-2003, 03:19 PM
Hey, I am just following your dust thats all. Got alittle surprise last week I will call you about.

DanV
01-16-2003, 09:32 AM
They are close in cutting performance being 40 amp machines. I can’t speak for the Hypertherm 600 but the Miller Spectrum 625 will run very nicely on 8KW generator power. Plus the Miller draws 30% less power. The Miller will draw 33amps on a 208V line and 30 amps on a 230V, the Hypertherm numbers per their web site are 46/40 on a 208/240 line respectfully. Hope this helps.

d.paulson
01-16-2003, 07:36 PM
You should also compare the consumable cost for each machine.
I have a small miller 2050 and a larger hypertherm max100 for mechanized cutting (which I absolutely love). I find that the genuine hypertherm parts are about 25% cheaper then the miller parts. In case you didn't know, miller uses hypertherm guns (so even they think that hypertherm rules)... Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to bash miller, they make a good welder, but in the plasma technology they are not tops.

Scott V
01-17-2003, 07:59 AM
I love the hypertherm max 100 also,I used a sticker off one to get a discount on my big esab.My friend has a cnc burn table also.It very nice.

Ed Heimbach
01-17-2003, 10:50 AM
I have a hypertherm, the machine works well, the consumables are inexpensive compared to others, and if you have any problems, customer service at hypertherm is one of the best around.
In my humble opinion hypertherm is the only machine to have.
I have a max 43 that 6 years old, and a powermax 1100 that is 4 years old, both get used hard.
The 1100 is on a cut table in the shop, I can cut 3/4" plate all day long with no problem. The 43 is my portable unit and gets knocked about on jobs, and rattled around in the back of a truck all the time, no complaints on either.

steelhanger
01-26-2003, 04:54 PM
ed, ihave a new torchbody for the 43,mail me if u want it.

Hobart Expert Rock
01-27-2003, 08:40 AM
OK MY 2 CENTS WORTH.............ON PLASMA CUTTERS......... WE'VE (MILLER/HOBART) BEEN IN THIS CUTTER BUSINESS FOR QUITE AWHILE.......HOBARTS HAS IMPORTED, LINDE'S, L-TECH'S, PANASONIC'S ETC. WE ARE CURRENTLY (MILLER) SELLING THE THUNDER AND SPECTRUM THRU THE RETAIL OUTLETS WITH SUCESS. UNITS SEEM TO HOLD UP WELL WITH LITTLE OR NO TROUBLE. MOST PROBLEMS ARE CONSUMABLES, THAT I'VE SEEN.......... TRYING TO GET THE LAST MILE OUT OF THEM.......... I THINK WE ARE AT LEAST EQUALE TO THE COMPETITORS IN QUALITY AND RELIABILITY........... HOWEVER IN THE SAME LIGHT ALL MANUFACUTERS (MOSTLY) HAVE RELIABLE MACHINES NOW A DAYS.......... SO IT KINDA TURNS INTO WHAT YOU'VE HAD SUCESSS WITH IN THE PAST.......... HOWEVER EVERYONCE IN AWHILE SOME OF US WILL TRY SOMETHING NEW THAT IS NICE AND HOLDS UP WELL..........................SAID MY PIECE NOW.........BE SAFE....ROCK
SSCOTT@MILLERWELDS.COM

Roger
01-27-2003, 10:51 AM
ROCK
Didn't ITW a few years ago buy a well respected U.S. manufacture of plasma cutters and merge them in with Miller Electric? I can't remember the company's name.

Hobart Expert Rock
01-27-2003, 10:57 AM
ROGER.............YES I THINK YOUR REFERING TO POWCON , NOW DEFUNK, HOWEVER WE DID ALSO PURCHASE A TORCH COMPANY CALLED TRAFIMET WHO MAKES PLASMA TORCH'S...... I RECALL NO ONE ELSE..........HOWEVER DAN V IS THE PLASMA EXPERT AND IF I'M WRONG I'M SURE HE WILL CHIME IN......I JUST DON'T RECALL ANYONE BEFORE OR AFTER POWCON..............BE SAFE..........ROCK
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cope
01-27-2003, 12:07 PM
Rock, I saw yesterday that PowCon has been reborn as Arcon. No plasma yet but Stick, MIG & TIG inverters.

Hobart Expert Rock
01-27-2003, 12:14 PM
HI COPE..............YOUR RIGHT AT ONE TIME IAN AND I TALKED ABOUT THAT. THEY DO STILL MAKE SOMETHINGS FOR US IN THE CONTROLLER SIDE OF THE BUSINESS.........ARCON WOULD BE ARC PRODUCTS WITH THE LAST 3 LETTERS COMMING FROM POWCON..
THANKS FOR THE INFO.................................ROCK
SSCOTT@MILLERWELDS.COM

Scott V
01-27-2003, 04:18 PM
If they did,they made cutters also.

Hobart Expert Rock
01-28-2003, 02:39 PM
SCOTT V.........HEY I JUST CALLED THEM, THEY QUIT HANDLING PLASMA CUTTERS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO THE RECEPTIONIST TOLD ME............SO SMITH IS OUT OF THE PLASMA CUTTING BUSINESS AS FAR AS MACHINES GO.............ROCK
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