MIG conversion question

[Cleaver]

Hi,

Well I joined a welding class (intro to MIG) and I must say..that having a MIG setup is a huge difference from a fluxcore (in my opinion). So, I want to convert it to MIG...when I have the money!

My welder is a Campbell Hausfeld model WF2000 which is convertible to a MIG setup. From the website (cambellhausfeld.com), it said that I need this kit (part number: WT600400AJ).

This is what the kit inclues: (taken from the CH site) "The WT6004 includes: a gas regulator, pre-set at 30 SCFH, with a CGA-580 Argon, Argon/CO2 fitting, 4’ of gas hose, two hose clamps, a complete 6’ MIG torch with gas valve, a Tweco nozzle and .035” contact tip, and a gas fitting to connect the torch hose to the regulator hose."

looking at the pictures, it is basically a regulator (preset at 30 scfh), a gun with gas valves and some hoses.

Now, here are my questions...I looked at MY torch gun and took off the nozzle and saw that there are holes on the sides of the gun where I think are gas valves does that mean my welder has already been converted to MIG? I do not have the regulators or any of the gas hose though.

And lets say that my Torch has the gas valves already....what do I need to make my welder to a MIG? Do I need to get a regulator and hose lines and a C-25 Tank? and presto...im running MIG already?

Also, regarding the regulator...are ALL the regulators universal or do I have to get specifically from CH? Reason I ask about this is that the regulator is preset to 30scfh and I was hopeing if I can lower that with an adjustable one, cuz I heard once that people turn it down to like 6scfh-15scfh to use less gas so it will last longer (the tank)..hehe.

Ill have to take pics in a few days to show to you people so that it could make more sense...sorry for the LONG post....

any comments are welcome...thank you!

ps: I tried to search it and read the posts and did not find what I was asking..so I made a thread up..
:)

[cope]

Originally posted by Cleaver
Hi,

Well I joined a welding class (intro to MIG) and I must say..that having a MIG setup is a huge difference from a fluxcore (in my opinion). So, I want to convert it to MIG...when I have the money!

My welder is a Campbell Hausfeld model WF2000 which is convertible to a MIG setup. From the website (cambellhausfeld.com), it said that I need this kit (part number: WT600400AJ).

This is what the kit inclues: (taken from the CH site) "The WT6004 includes: a gas regulator, pre-set at 30 SCFH, with a CGA-580 Argon, Argon/CO2 fitting, 4’ of gas hose, two hose clamps, a complete 6’ MIG torch with gas valve, a Tweco nozzle and .035” contact tip, and a gas fitting to connect the torch hose to the regulator hose."

looking at the pictures, it is basically a regulator (preset at 30 scfh), a gun with gas valves and some hoses.

Now, here are my questions...I looked at MY torch gun and took off the nozzle and saw that there are holes on the sides of the gun where I think are gas valves does that mean my welder has already been converted to MIG? I do not have the regulators or any of the gas hose though.

And lets say that my Torch has the gas valves already....what do I need to make my welder to a MIG? Do I need to get a regulator and hose lines and a C-25 Tank? and presto...im running MIG already?

Also, regarding the regulator...are ALL the regulators universal or do I have to get specifically from CH? Reason I ask about this is that the regulator is preset to 30scfh and I was hopeing if I can lower that with an adjustable one, cuz I heard once that people turn it down to like 6scfh-15scfh to use less gas so it will last longer (the tank)..hehe.

Ill have to take pics in a few days to show to you people so that it could make more sense...sorry for the LONG post....

any comments are welcome...thank you!

ps: I tried to search it and read the posts and did not find what I was asking..so I made a thread up..
:)

Any flowgauge will work. You will not be able to run scfh though; 15 or so is as low as yopu will be able to go. Look inside the machine for signs of a gas connection somewhere on your mig gun hose. If there is one it will work; if not you need one with gas connection. Depending on who made the gun you have you may be forced to get one from CH. Look at this site; they have pictures of the rear-end for all the guns they sell. The Tweco Mini-Mig or a clone is what you want.

http://www.weldingdepot.com/?source=overture

[Roger]

Your welder has real limits. A liitle research tells the MIG conversion torch lead is only 6 feet long. Your welder only has high and low power setting. Maximum of 80 amps output. It looks like the MIG conversion doesn't include a gas solenoid but uses gas valve in MIG gun. I would not buy the MIG conversion kit and save for a 220V 170 amp MIG made by a better company.

If you buy the MIG conversion kit and can find cheap or free adjustable adjustable flow regulator ok. You will not save much gas. New adjustabe flow regulator and hose cost $60 to $90 U.S. Probably not worth extra expence for your welder.

[hankj]

Cleaver,

Don't do it.

Save your $$ and get a new or used HH135 or MM135, or someting like them. You will be very happy if you do that, and the unit will last you for a long time.

Be well.

hankj

[Cleaver]

hello,

I guess your all right!

Thanks for the advice!

I will not buy the MIG conversion kit because I know that my welder is limited to the amount of power it can handle.

Once I save up enough money, ill definitly buy either a Miller or a Hobart. I got the chance to use a HObart 135 w/ MIG setup and I Must say..its a really nice machine!

for now, ill keep using flux core and keep practicing on my welding until I get better...

thanks again for the help...much appriciated!
:)