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skinner

11-18-2002, 02:48 PM

Come on guys I know someone is biulding something out there I look forward to comeing home at night and checking this site out just to see what you guys have been up to!! I guess everyone is setting in for winter or something. As much as I like Shermans' Harly I can only look at it so many times without setting into depression caused by envy!!

Maybe you guys at Hobart need to come up with plans for something and then we could see everyones version of it as they build it.

Al T.

11-18-2002, 08:06 PM

Well I guess someone has to be first, it ain't much but I needed some welding practise and something functional.

Our Rubbermaid wheeled trash containers were always flipping over in windy rainey weather. I needed a place for three containers that was strong and could be moved later on when we have a deck built. The containers just roll up to it, hop on and the far flip down handle catches on the metal upright to secure it. Problem solved.

Al T.

11-18-2002, 08:08 PM

Another angle

Al T.

11-18-2002, 08:11 PM

Now I just got to paint the thing.

Arbo

11-18-2002, 08:13 PM

I'm working on the mother of all welding tables. I added some gadgetry that I thought would come in handy. As soon as I get it finished, I will post some pics. I needed one with lots of room, yet protable. I'll let you know when it's done. Probably a few days yet.

Al T.

11-18-2002, 08:13 PM

One more shot.

Rocky D

11-18-2002, 10:23 PM

Originally posted by Al T.
One more shot.

Al, that is pure genius!!! Great job, well done!

Royal Fe

11-18-2002, 11:20 PM

Ok, I'll post a couple of metal projects. One is picture frames the other is curtain rods and the third is a bit bizarre, a steel fountain head for my water garden.

The picture frames are an experiment and look like one too. I'll post pics tomorrow of my sorry welding. I don't have one of those SD things like Mojunk and I'll make sure that the resolution on the pictures to come is bad enough to improve my perceived skill. One issue I have is being able to keep the paintings tight in the frame. Thought about magnets but haven't been pressured by the wife to complete them so I haven't figured it out yet:rolleyes: Yep, they'll be heavy picture frames.

The curtain rods are for the Mother-in-Law and I have been motivated to complete these. They will be simple 1/2" solid stock and I think I'll weld some fence top ferules on the ends to make them look pretty. That should keep me in good graces for a few more weeks. I'll post pics in a few days.

The last and most fun project will be a fountain head for my water garden. I like to call it sculpture cause it sounds more expensive but in reality it's just some scrap pipe and sheet steel made to look fancy. One of my neighbors, who is retired, is helping me with the design and I know that will be more of an adventure than making the project itself. It's way too complicated to explain here I'll just post some pics when its done.

Now I just need the time to get it done!

Ed Heimbach

11-19-2002, 12:09 AM

I'm building a Chrysler Hemi V-8 powered welder from a Lincoln SAE-400 motor-generator welder and an engine that I bought 23 years ago.
When I'm done I should be able to weld 1" plate in one pass with no edge prep.
I'll also be able to generate 220 and 440 volt three phase with it.
I'm currently looking to find a constant voltage add-on adapter so I can use this for short-arc mig, and be able to weld the smaller stuff with it also.
Welder output specs are better than 700 amps at 30 arc volts.
I'd also like to find an add-on high frequency stabilizer-starter for tig use on aluminum.
I've got the machine just about finished with the exception of final assembly and paint.
This might not get finished until the spring , as some of my winter projects have got the shop pretty full.

dysfunction

11-19-2002, 01:31 AM

I'm building several things, although most probably arent that interesting. This is the one I happen to have a picture of at the moment. Picture1 (http://thisdysfunctional.org/kids/album01/DSC00122_001.jpg)

Picture2 (http://thisdysfunctional.org/kids/album01/DSC00110.jpg)

Im also narrowing an axle or two and once thats done start suspension links and then set the drivetrain in the frame.

d110pickup

11-19-2002, 04:46 AM

dysfunction,
The frame looks pretty neat, what vehicle are you building and how close to stock are you intending it to be? Wheelbase, etc.
Also what tubing bender do you use?
Glad to see there's a few wheelers on this board.
Later,
Mike

morpheus

11-19-2002, 08:18 AM

nice frame work dysfunction (it's mike isn't it ?) !!

wish I'd gone that route instead of cutting all the brackets off my Toyota heavy framed beast. If I had it to do over again I'd do what you did and make my own.

- jack

morpheus

11-19-2002, 08:19 AM

I just finished up putting disk brake brackets on my rear 60
and I'm in the process of narrowing an axle as well.

here's a shot of my disk brake brackets, I bought the $7 aa-mfg brackets and modified with them with a piece of 3/8 plate welded all along the sides and a couple of spots in back to fit my odd application (a 6-lug semi floating 60).

- jack

John Stuckey

11-19-2002, 10:23 AM

Skinner:
This is so you will have something to read about tonight:
made a toilet paper holder out of 3" angle iron for the mens room in the basement. It's a mens room because the wife doesn't think I keep the area clean enough for her.
Signed,
Utility Welder;)

dysfunction

11-19-2002, 11:26 AM

Originally posted by d110pickup
dysfunction,
The frame looks pretty neat, what vehicle are you building and how close to stock are you intending it to be? Wheelbase, etc.
Also what tubing bender do you use?
Glad to see there's a few wheelers on this board.
Later,
Mike

Origionally posted by morpheus
nice frame work dysfunction (it's mike isn't it ?) !!

wish I'd gone that route instead of cutting all the brackets off my Toyota heavy framed beast. If I had it to do over again I'd do what you did and make my own.

- jack

Thanks guys :D , it's actually the new frame for my 71 cj5. It's about 4" wider than stock and at 104" wheelbase its a full 2 feet longer. I have a JD2 model 3 bender. If I were looking again I'd likely lean towards the protools if I was buying a model 3 style.
Oh and morpheus, ya caught me :cool: my last build on my 5 I stripped the frame down and repaired all the cracks then boxed it. Took 3 days between prepping the frame, welding up all the cracks, making the plates and welding em on. Was way more work than it was worth. Took less than a day to build a frame from scratch. Definatley way easier. Looks like your rear axles coming along nicely. I still have to cut the ends off the 60 Im using and the torhed off tubes from a 14 bolt and swap em around.

mike

dysfunction

11-19-2002, 12:28 PM

I like it, but you can get a protools faster I believe from www.rockbuggysupply.com. They're essentially the same bender, but I've heard that the protools dies are nicer in that they're hardened. Course since I don't own one I never really looked into it. If that is the case you can get protolls dies made for the JD bender.

morpheus

11-19-2002, 12:35 PM

what are the specs on the tube you used for your frame mike ?

there are quite a few from p4x4 on here ... i asked you about the bucket seats last week on chat with the bbs was down...

- jack

morpheus

11-19-2002, 12:38 PM

i have a JD2 also and would have gotten a pro-tools had I known someone with one at the time. Pro-tools seems to be a much bigger outfit than JD2, which is always out of benders or dies. and alan at www.rockbuggysupply.com has great prices on the pro-tools stuff.

i waited probably 6-8 weeks on my jd2 stuff ...

- jack

dysfunction

11-19-2002, 12:41 PM

I've noticed that, I thought I was being all sneaky ;) I used 2x3 .188 wall tubing for my frame. I wanted a slightly lower profile than 2x4 tubing and the .188 wall is the same weight as 2x4 .120 (roughly). If you've seen Dean's frame he stacked the tubing, I didn't like the amount of space there was for uptravel, and I especially didnt like the 4 passes required for each joint.

morpheus

11-19-2002, 12:49 PM

sounds cool. how much does the frame weigh ?

dysfunction

11-19-2002, 12:55 PM

I havent weighed it yet. But given an approx weight of 5.93# per foot its about 200lbs.

edit: I dont have an exact weight per foot, I used the following forumula to estimate it:
13.60 x (Outside Diameter - wall) x wall = weight per foot

outraged

11-19-2002, 01:08 PM

Alrighty then, i guess i'll post a couple pics of my recent stuff. nothing too exciting, just some functional projects.

first is my welding cart, just wanted something other than the craftsman portable cart i had the welder sitting on. it's basically just designed to carry the welder, gas tank, and other tools i may need when i need to go mobile [i.e. some where else in the shop] :)

Cart 1 (http://www.carleubanks.com/misc/Welding Cart-01.JPG)
Cart 2 (http://www.carleubanks.com/misc/Welding Cart-02.JPG)
Cart 3 (http://www.carleubanks.com/misc/Welding Cart-03.JPG)
Cart 4 (http://www.carleubanks.com/misc/Welding Cart-04.JPG)

second is a 55gal bbq grill. based off of Lincoln's design. very simple. i just wanted to build it cause i had an extra barrel sitting around, but now it has come to be much more than just a grill. since we are having 20 family members over for turkey day, and only one oven, well, the grill will be used to cook 2 turkeys. i've tested it already on a small turkey and about a 3 foot rack of ribs. works great. i havent painted the barrel yet, i wanted to see how the original paint would hold up to the heat. has done well so far.

55gal BBQ Grill (http://www.carleubanks.com/misc/Grill-01.JPG)

-Outraged

oh, my next project will be a little more interesting...i am rebuiding my safari rack for my jeep!!! :)

morpheus

11-19-2002, 01:16 PM

Originally posted by dysfunction
I havent weighed it yet. But given an approx weight of 5.93# per foot its about 200lbs.

edit: I dont have an exact weight per foot, I used the following forumula to estimate it:
13.60 x (Outside Diameter - wall) x wall = weight per foot

I used the calculator at http://www.onlinemetals.com/calculator.cfm and assumed you were using leaf springs and that each frame rail was about 12 ft long and added a few extra feet in for xmembers, so a total of 30 ft. ... it came out to 177 lbs ... I'd guess your 200 lb guess is pretty close.

I weighed my toyota frame a few weeks back and in it's present condition with all spring hangers and new crossmembers welded in place it weighs right at 250 lbs ... which seem quite heavy :(

- jack

morpheus

11-19-2002, 01:17 PM

Originally posted by outraged
Alrighty then, i guess i'll post a couple pics of my recent stuff. nothing too exciting, just some functional projects.

nice work outraged !

where are you at in Alabama ?

- jack

dysfunction

11-19-2002, 01:19 PM

Originally posted by morpheus

I used the calculator at http://www.onlinemetals.com/calculator.cfm and assumed you were using leaf springs and that each frame rail was about 12 ft long and added a few extra feet in for xmembers, so a total of 30 ft. ... it came out to 177 lbs ... I'd guess your 200 lb guess is pretty close.

I weighed my toyota frame a few weeks back and in it's present condition with all spring hangers and new crossmembers welded in place it weighs right at 250 lbs ... which seem quite heavy :(

- jack

You're close :) there's 34' of tubing total. Using rear leafs and front coils (keeps the side hilling under control) is the current plan, I've been pondering doing rear links with shackles at both ends of the springs though.

morpheus

11-19-2002, 01:26 PM

34 ft = 200.7484 lbs ... I'd say you're 200 lb est was right on ;)

why did you not bend a frame up since by the looks of your chassis table you're quite proficient with the bender ?

- jack

d110pickup

11-19-2002, 01:53 PM

Originally posted by russell
Mike,say you don`t like the JD2 model 3 bender? I have been looking at benders for a while,and had about decided on the JD2.
I would appreciate you opinion on it.

thanks,
russell

Russell,
I'm a different Mike than the one you asked but I'll throw in my .02. I bought my model 3 about a 1 1/2 years ago and have been really happy with it. At the time I ordered they were shipping pretty promptly, also got the hydraulic attachment and added the pump and cylinder locally. I would recommend it.
Later,
Mike Pado

dysfunction

11-19-2002, 01:53 PM

I had a tube chassis sitting in my garage for a while, traded it for the tubing to make that frame. ;) This whole project was precipitated by the need to take my kids with wheeling. Round tubing isn't as stiff over distance as square and so it requires additional bracing and basically a unitized chassis to retain it's rigidity. This is fine for a comp buggy, but I figured it'd be too difficult to get 2 toddlers out of car seats in the back that way ;)

well, that and this was faster. Dont worry though the rest of it will be tubed and skinned.

Al T.

11-19-2002, 01:58 PM

outraged, Good Job!

My next door neighbor needs me to redo his barrel BBQ stand, the factory one couldn't take the extra weight of his smoker option. This will be a winter project if he ever gets it over to me.

dysfunction

11-19-2002, 01:59 PM

Originally posted by d110pickup

Russell,
I'm a different Mike than the one you asked but I'll throw in my .02. I bought my model 3 about a 1 1/2 years ago and have been really happy with it. At the time I ordered they were shipping pretty promptly, also got the hydraulic attachment and added the pump and cylinder locally. I would recommend it.
Later,
Mike Pado

Thats approximately when I got mine. And yep, it's done a lot of work for me and been a workhorse. Only problems I've had have been simple things like a gouge taken out of a die face which is where hardened dies would be nice. I still havent converted to hydraulic, I've meant to a few times but somethings come up and I end up still pulling a handle, I look at it as a quick cardio workout ;) did you use a portapower or a welded/tie rod cylinder?

dysfunction

11-19-2002, 02:01 PM

Originally posted by outraged
Alrighty then, i guess i'll post a couple pics of my recent stuff. nothing too exciting, just some functional projects.

first is my welding cart, just wanted something other than the craftsman portable cart i had the welder sitting on. it's basically just designed to carry the welder, gas tank, and other tools i may need when i need to go mobile [i.e. some where else in the shop] :)

Cart 1 (http://www.carleubanks.com/misc/Welding Cart-01.JPG)
Cart 2 (http://www.carleubanks.com/misc/Welding Cart-02.JPG)
Cart 3 (http://www.carleubanks.com/misc/Welding Cart-03.JPG)
Cart 4 (http://www.carleubanks.com/misc/Welding Cart-04.JPG)

second is a 55gal bbq grill. based off of Lincoln's design. very simple. i just wanted to build it cause i had an extra barrel sitting around, but now it has come to be much more than just a grill. since we are having 20 family members over for turkey day, and only one oven, well, the grill will be used to cook 2 turkeys. i've tested it already on a small turkey and about a 3 foot rack of ribs. works great. i havent painted the barrel yet, i wanted to see how the original paint would hold up to the heat. has done well so far.

55gal BBQ Grill (http://www.carleubanks.com/misc/Grill-01.JPG)

-Outraged

oh, my next project will be a little more interesting...i am rebuiding my safari rack for my jeep!!! :)

Very cool! It'd be nice if I cold store some stuff on my welder thats or sure! then again, it'd be nice to be able to cook 2 turkeys at once too! hhmmm... maybe I'll have to see if I can find a 50gal drum.. :D

skinner

11-19-2002, 05:06 PM

I knew that somebody was doing something. Not everybody is as lazy as I am!!! But I am very disapointed that Stuckey did not post a picture of his toilet paper holder. I thought all the projects were great and I hope you guys keep up the good work and keep me entertained. I have got to find time to start my 4x4 project, the dove tail on my 24' gooseneck, the storage biulding,and the fence. If I ever do I will be sure to keep you guys posted as it goes along. Also I hope that we all get to see the progress of the jeep project.

KEEP YOUR RODS HOT :) :)

d110pickup

11-19-2002, 05:07 PM

Originally posted by dysfunction

Thats approximately when I got mine. And yep, it's done a lot of work for me and been a workhorse. Only problems I've had have been simple things like a gouge taken out of a die face which is where hardened dies would be nice. I still havent converted to hydraulic, I've meant to a few times but somethings come up and I end up still pulling a handle, I look at it as a quick cardio workout ;) did you use a portapower or a welded/tie rod cylinder?

dysfunction,
I used the 10 ton, 14" inch stroke portapower ram and an air over hydraulic pump. I think it's an Enerpac. I don't think the stroke is long enough, you have to bend about 60 degrees and then reposition for the rest of the bend. If you're going to go hydro take a look at this site. http://www.mindspring.com/~jayk3/toyota/
He does some slick work. Go to the Homebrew Hydro bender page.
later,
Mike pado

Roger

11-19-2002, 05:14 PM

I'm welding some 20" X 1.5" pipe feet on pipe grind bars. Son came home with some 2" pipe that has large radius arc and already has 3ea 1' legs welded on. He said it was part of old awning. I have made some before and they get passed around the skate boad comunity.

dysfunction

11-19-2002, 05:49 PM

Originally posted by d110pickup

dysfunction,
I used the 10 ton, 14" inch stroke portapower ram and an air over hydraulic pump. I think it's an Enerpac. I don't think the stroke is long enough, you have to bend about 60 degrees and then reposition for the rest of the bend. If you're going to go hydro take a look at this site. http://www.mindspring.com/~jayk3/toyota/
He does some slick work. Go to the Homebrew Hydro bender page.
later,
Mike pado

Yeah, I've seen Jay's bender. That's actually why I was asking :) I've been pricing air/hydraulic pumps and welded T cylinders again

morpheus

11-19-2002, 09:03 PM

I'm about to buy this air/hydro ram to power my JD2 ... it cost $89 and has a 19-5/16" stroke. the guy who I know used it claims he can almost bend 90 degrees with the way he set it up ... if it doesn't bend well. my engine hoist just got air powered :D

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=43227

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/photos/43200-43299/43227.gif

- jack