new plasma cutter

[saandman]

Hey i just got a new plasma cutter and it has no plugs or directions to put plug on?
My question is so i dont cross the wires ,and which ones go where in the plug.
The colors are
of the wires is green and green with light green strip, and red.
Can someone tell me which way these wires go in a plug?
Thanks

[Broccoli1]

120v
240v
Brand name of machine?

[saandman]

longevity and i think everlast are the same make

[saandman]

longevity and i think everlast are the same make,
120 or 240 it says .
i need 120 for house

[SundownIII]

Saaandman,

Guess you'll have to call China and find out what their color coding for wire is.

On US, 120V service, you generally have a black (hot), white (neutral), green (ground).

What does the instruction manual say, or is it in Chinese?

[Bob the Welder]

Saandman, guess you'll get a chance to use the customer support that Longevity seems to be so proud of at their websight. Hopefully you won't need to find out how good their one year warranty is.

[Zrexxer]

What does the instruction manual say, or is it in Chinese?They've actually got a quite good manual just on wiring the plug and machine on their website... I think somebody just didn't RTFM.:D

http://longevity-inc.com/manuals/17_2.pdf

It's funny, the manual actually says "If you are color blind you should not be doing this!"

[SundownIII]

Saandman,

There's a new poster over on WeldingWeb, who professes to be a rep. for your plasma cutter.

I'd recommend going over there and asking your questions. He can be found under the "Introduce Yourself" heading.

Hope this helps.

[Broccoli1]

Z-

I was reading the manual when you posted and boy was that funny.:)

Good luck Sandman-

It could be Green, green w/ stripe, red, blue.

Looks like they used 2 of their wiring colors for the Ground and Neutral

According to them-
Ground is supposed to be Green or Green with a stripe
Hot is either Blue or Red:)

[Broccoli1]

They've actually got a quite good manual just on wiring the plug and machine on their website... I think somebody just didn't RTFM.:D



It's funny, the manual actually says "If you are color blind you should not be doing this!"

Why? Heck they make ya find the **** ground wiring anyway so what does color even have to do with it:D Ya still have to trace the wire.


"Whatever you do DON'T cut the Blue wire":p

[Pumpkinhead]

oh that bad boy is CLASSIC!
this has got to be the best line in the manual:


Introduction
Regardless of which machine you have, it will require power to operate properly.


with this as a close second:


You can also use a continuity meter to check. If the wire you choose causes the meter to light
up, then odds are that it is correct.

odds are? odds are? and odds are if it billows smoke you're wrong. nyuck, nyuck, nyuck,

[lgjhn]

These weren't written by the "sharpest tool in the shed"....thats for sure.
IF I'm reading it right, once you find the ground., the other two can be either the neutral or hot for 120V or both hot for 220V. Worst instructions I've seen in awhile....even the cheapo Parker I have had the correct wire color codes....geez.

[Grappletractor]

These weren't written by the "sharpest tool in the shed"....thats for sure.
IF I'm reading it right, once you find the ground., the other two can be either the neutral or hot for 120V or both hot for 220V. Worst instructions I've seen in awhile....even the cheapo Parker I have had the correct wire color codes....geez.


You can always pop the cover off and see it clearly then.
Wire attached to the machine's frame will be your equipment ground.

[Broccoli1]

You can always pop the cover off and see it clearly then.
Wire attached to the machine's frame will be your equipment ground.

Just what I've always wanted to do to a new machine:rolleyes:

[Grappletractor]

Just what I've always wanted to do to a new machine:rolleyes:

:rolleyes: Well...... when the supplier doesn't make it clear I'd say this is the only way to be POSITIVE of which wire is which! Do you have a better suggestion or do you just feel the need to be sarcastic? :rolleyes:

[Broccoli1]

:rolleyes: Well...... when the supplier doesn't make it clear I'd say this is the only way to be POSITIVE of which wire is which! Do you have a better suggestion or do you just feel the need to be sarcastic? :rolleyes:

Sarcastic- following the wire is obvious:)

[longevity]

Sorry about the manuals guys,

We will be more happy to help you with the setup of the units. Remember, the green and yellow is the ground. The other two wires are both HOT. If you are hooking up to 220v, you use each wire on each hot terminal. For 110v, you must combine both hot wires as one wire and use the green with yellow as the ground.

You will wire basically the same way as you would to 220v. If you have any questions, please PM us.

Thanks

[Pumpkinhead]

For 110v, you must combine both hot wires as one wire and use the green with yellow as the ground.
Thanks

kind of defeats the purpose of a ground doesn't it?

buy American, live to see tomorrow.

[Grappletractor]

Sorry about the manuals guys,

We will be more happy to help you with the setup of the units. Remember, the green and yellow is the ground. The other two wires are both HOT. If you are hooking up to 220v, you use each wire on each hot terminal. For 110v, you must combine both hot wires as one wire and use the green with yellow as the ground.

You will wire basically the same way as you would to 220v. If you have any questions, please PM us.

Thanks

Mr. Longevity,,,, when you say "use the green with yellow as the ground" what do you mean by "ground", the neutral conductor or the eguipment grounding conductor?.

[scotty8296]

Sorry about the manuals guys,

We will be more happy to help you with the setup of the units. Remember, the green and yellow is the ground. The other two wires are both HOT. If you are hooking up to 220v, you use each wire on each hot terminal. For 110v, you must combine both hot wires as one wire and use the green with yellow as the ground.

You will wire basically the same way as you would to 220v. If you have any questions, please PM us.

Thanks

This wiring does not make sense to me. Can you please explain why you would wind 2 wires together and use as one?

[Silverback]

I'd bet that the green/yellow is always the groundand the other 2 are both hot when you're using 220, and the hot and the neutral when you're using 110...

[scotty8296]

I agree with that, it would make a lot more sense. Just curious which would be the neutral or if it would even matter.

[Silverback]

Not that I have one of these in front of me or have looked at it, but from the description I wonder if the wire described as green might not be a faded black (hot), the green with light green actually be a green/yellow with some green fading into the yellow (neutral), and the red be a red (usually switched or the one that you usually mess with, so I would guess hot in 220 and neutral in 110).

Technically, in a 110 circuit the neutral and the ground go to the same bus bar inside the breaker box, but it’s illegal (can’t get a UL listed tag…) to use them interchangeably in the device that you’re plugging in (interestingly, I’ve noticed that some HF welders, like their body work stud welders aren’t UL listed, which means that HF stores in one county here in MD can’t carry them but the ones in surrounding counties can. FWIW, they aren’t made in china, but Albania of all places…).

[hankj]

Never saw this thread before.

What a joke.

Just curious, here, Saandman, but does this f'n machine have a UL approval on it? Using the equipment ground as a current conductor is a no-no anywhere in this country!

Hank

[Grappletractor]

Never saw this thread before.

What a joke.

Just curious, here, Saandman, but does this f'n machine have a UL approval on it? Using the equipment ground as a current conductor is a no-no anywhere in this country!

Hank

Besides that as discribed the machine will not even light up.THERE is NO internal connections between the machine's frame ( equipment ground connected to ) and any of the current carrying conductors.

[ascenttm]

Don't know if you got an answer yet.
For 110v
The green with the stripe is ground
the green or blue is neutral
The red is hot

[mwoh419]

(sarcasm) Just twist em all together and stick em in a light socket. Might have the same end result no matter what you do.:rolleyes:

[Broccoli1]

Hey,

Do you know this diesel generators? I need one, but i dont know. Can you say me if that is a good diesel generators? or some plasma cutter? tig welder?

https://www.everlastgenerators.com

thanks

You considering Neverlast after reading this thread?:eek:

[Zrexxer]

You considering Neverlast after reading this thread?:eek:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Zrexxer/Icons/troll2hg9.jpg