rusty Old Lincoln welder?

[envelopes2007]

Hi posters,
I have never.....EVER! welded.
I need an AC generator for my remote island cabin.
We have found this old 1980's Lincoln Weldanpower AC-225/DC 210/6 c/w Onan 2cyl gas engine 15.7HP
I suppose it runs and welds and doesn't blow much blue smoke..... but is there a specific test or two I could perform ie: before hauling it away to the junkyard!
I am new to welding (never done it) but I need an AC generator that runs quietly at low RPM.
I have neighbours.!!!
.......can muffler be upgraded on engine?
Kevin

[Zrexxer]

We have found this old 1980's Lincoln Weldanpower AC-225/DC 210/6 c/w Onan 2cyl gas engine 15.7HP<snip>I am new to welding (never done it) but I need an AC generator that runs quietly at low RPM. I have neighbours.!!!
.......can muffler be upgraded on engine? Kevin
If you're needing a quiet, low rpm generator... that machine ain't even close. I suppose you could improve muffling somewhat on it, but you're going to hit a plateau on how quiet you can make that engine.

How much generator do you need? Sounds like you might be better off looking for a dedicated generator that's designed to be quiet, like a Honda EU series.

Welcome to the forum, btw.

[weldgault]

Thid is Hobart not Lincoln. Go there for answers. John

[envelopes2007]

Thanks for the welcome.
I agree that slow speed deisel (1800rpm) is optimum.
But I need something..... RIGHT NOW!
I have a bulldozer and some steel trusses on the island and also (5) 24v deep cycle @200 a/h each batteries.
A 1,000 a/h battery bank needs a 100amp charger which needs a decent sized generator to run it.
Honda 3000eu ......I think is VERY QUIET but maybe a little too small....though very very quiet!
Any body own one of these old Lincolns before?

[envelopes2007]

I have been speaking with LINCOLN.

Q: Are you saying? this machine is not a LINCOLN even though it is painted red and says Lincoln weldanpower ....right on the front of it!

How can it be Hobart?
explain?

[gatkeper1]

I have a Weldenpower 225 and it is anything but quiet.That thing screams. You neighbors will burn you at the stake if you run it for any length of time.

[Zrexxer]

Thid is Hobart not Lincoln. Go there for answers. JohnWow, 4 whole posts and you're laying down the law. :rolleyes:

[gatkeper1]

This is Hobart not Lincoln. Go there for answers. John

just let me see If I have this right
Your first post on this board is to offer your services
Your second post tells another new poster to go away.
How are you being helpful ?

[Archaic]

I have one of these machines, and it is still welding. If you have access to an OM you will find that you will be running the engine for welding, or power, at 3000 RPM. Check closely! My generator puts out 110 Volts, but at 50 Hz. The 50 Hz causes trouble with some motors.

This is a very noisy machine. Yes, you can retrofit or build a quiet muffler. I built ones out of stainless steel. But, the machine noise itself is very loud. Constant running at 3000 RPM it sucks gas like a bandit.

If that is the Onan CCK horizontally opposed two cylinder engine they are prohibitively expensive to rebuild.

Adios-----

[envelopes2007]

I have a Weldenpower 225 and it is anything but quiet.That thing screams. You neighbors will burn you at the stake if you run it for any length of time.

OK...what engine does it have? is it the ONAN 2,000-3,000 rpm model?
How old is your model?
Do you recommend this unit?

[envelopes2007]

I'm happy to let it scream if it is capable of puttting juice into my batteries!!
Then I'll shut it down .....and use it for welding.
GOOD MACHINE.... or can I do better? for $500 bucks!!

[Archaic]

I apologize. I gave you bad information. Let me see if I can correct.

I have two machines. One is an early sixties model Lincwelder 225. Onan CCK engine. 3000 RPM. Provides 110 Volt power only. 3000 Watts continuous with 20 max amp draw and 50 Hz power. The second is an early sixties Lincoln WeldanPower. It is powered by a two cylinder Wisconsin. 220 Volt and 110 Volt auxilary power. 5000 watts continuous power at 1925 RPM and it is 60 Hz power.

Both have been in use and welding for forty-five plus years. Both weld really well. Few, if any repairs to either welder other than normal spark plugs, points, etc.

They are really noisy and eat a lot of gas under load. Sorry if I confused you with my first post.

[envelopes2007]

HEY...ANY INFORMATION IS OK!
At this point I have a huge learning curve in front of me ......
This welder is portable, rugged and durable? So its just right for a 2 acre hobby farm.
How can I test it? before I purchase it?
Any ideas?
remember, I've never (EVER) welded before?

[Archaic]

"This welder is portable, rugged and durable?" Well, portable is relative, eh? Mine get lifted up with an engine hoist and put in the back of a truck when we need to use them in the field. They are heavy old beasts! I have a big wheeled cart they sit on for pushing them around the concrete floored shop. I would hate to have to push/pull/tug/cuss one across dirt.

If you have never welded I would suggest that you find someone that knows how to weld to go with you. Basically you want to see if the engine starts easily. Let it warm up and then plug in a big grinder or something that has a sizeable amp draw. Energize it. Engine should bellow like a bull and run smooth as it comes under load. You will quickly get an idea of the noise factor. When you weld it should go to full rpm when the arc is struck and run smoothly under load as long as the arc continues. When you break the arc, it should go back to high idle smoothly and sit there purring. When you strike an arc, or energize an electrical device if the engine bogs or belchs smoke, take that as a hint that it is old and tired. Or, could just need a little tuning. If, when you strike an arc, or energize an electrical device the engine starts hunting - rapid accelerate/decelerate that is usually just an adjustment problem. The Onan engines can be somewhat difficult to tune until you get the hang of it, then you can make them run like a top.

As far as rugged and durable. Well, I have been running the snot out of both of mine since the early sixties. I like the welding characteristics of the LinkWelder 225 much more than the WeldanPower. Both will do a fine job welding. Having listened to the both for forty odd years I would opt for something a LOT quieter to charge my batteries.